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ericthec's review against another edition
3.0
Ambitious but hard to follow out of context. Not an independent read.
webjoram's review against another edition
4.0
Este volumen hay que leerlo a la vez que el New Avengers, Volume 4: Perfect World porque sino te vas a perder muchas cosas. Dicho esto en ambos volúmenes Hickman relata el acto segundo de de su historia río de las Incursiones. En este volumen vemos todo lo que desencadena cuando el Capitán América descubre lo que han estado haciendo los illuminati y decide ir a muerte a por todos ellos, empezando por Iron Man.
misterfix's review against another edition
3.0
Sorry to differ with the majority of reviewers but I was disappointed. I found this series storyline muddled and the art unexceptional; perhaps it's because I was reading Hegel, Godel and other philosophers/mathematicians around the same time and therefore the 'kitchen-sink' approach to paradox and logic that Hickman applies came off as a hot mess. Was also frustrated that the art was so plain - just finished Deadly Class and was blown away by the layout applied there. Heck, there were sequences in this book where Mister Fantastic went from having a "4" on his chest to not having it in the next frame and then it being back again in the following 2-3, end then gone again. Noticed a fair number of these art typos.
Anywho - not for me.
Anywho - not for me.
crookedtreehouse's review against another edition
2.0
For the most part, I trust Hickman when he's writing in the Marvel Universe. I was leary of his Fantastic Fouf and FF run when it started, but it really got more interesting as it went on, and by the end I was completely hooked.
With his Avengers run, I'm bored. He's writing The End Of The Marvel Universe, but he keeps having to stop and explain what's going on, and shift the focus to different characters because, well, there's Too Much Going On to care about. The Illuminati erases Cap's memories so they can stop universes colliding while The Builders of the Universe show up to destroy the Earth to keep the universes colliding while Thanos shows up to find his son and gives no shits about the universes colliding while Captain America fights with Iron Man and then goes time travelling because the universes colliding might possibly be a bad thing and The Illuminati are trying to stop the universes colliding which is what Captain America wants but not how he wants to get it done and it's exhausting.
While, technically, the story is moving really quickly, it feels like it's dragging because at the end of every volume of this Avengers series and the New Avengers series and the Avengers World series, we're left pretty much exactly wher we were at the beginning of each volume. Only the very first volume of Hickman's run: [b:New Avengers, Volume 1: Everything Dies|17251112|New Avengers, Volume 1 Everything Dies|Jonathan Hickman|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1409500228l/17251112._SY75_.jpg|23840560] actually progressed the story. Since then it's felt time loopy even when it hasn't been time loopy.
Some of the other negative reviews I've read focused on how difficult the story is to follow. And if you're not reading all of the books in the precise order, it definitely is. If you are reading them in the right order, it's easy to follow, but it can read boring if you're not totally devoted to explaining the science in science fiction. If you DO read comic books to nitpick time travel rules and how multiple universe theory works, you might love this book. I don't know. I hate it when a story is so obsessed with getting the science correct that they forget to have fun with the fiction. As such, this volume wasn't for me. But I still have my fingers crossed that this will end up refocusing on the actual destruction of the universes story before it all gets zapped away by Secret Wars.
With his Avengers run, I'm bored. He's writing The End Of The Marvel Universe, but he keeps having to stop and explain what's going on, and shift the focus to different characters because, well, there's Too Much Going On to care about. The Illuminati erases Cap's memories so they can stop universes colliding while The Builders of the Universe show up to destroy the Earth to keep the universes colliding while Thanos shows up to find his son and gives no shits about the universes colliding while Captain America fights with Iron Man and then goes time travelling because the universes colliding might possibly be a bad thing and The Illuminati are trying to stop the universes colliding which is what Captain America wants but not how he wants to get it done and it's exhausting.
While, technically, the story is moving really quickly, it feels like it's dragging because at the end of every volume of this Avengers series and the New Avengers series and the Avengers World series, we're left pretty much exactly wher we were at the beginning of each volume. Only the very first volume of Hickman's run: [b:New Avengers, Volume 1: Everything Dies|17251112|New Avengers, Volume 1 Everything Dies|Jonathan Hickman|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1409500228l/17251112._SY75_.jpg|23840560] actually progressed the story. Since then it's felt time loopy even when it hasn't been time loopy.
Some of the other negative reviews I've read focused on how difficult the story is to follow. And if you're not reading all of the books in the precise order, it definitely is. If you are reading them in the right order, it's easy to follow, but it can read boring if you're not totally devoted to explaining the science in science fiction. If you DO read comic books to nitpick time travel rules and how multiple universe theory works, you might love this book. I don't know. I hate it when a story is so obsessed with getting the science correct that they forget to have fun with the fiction. As such, this volume wasn't for me. But I still have my fingers crossed that this will end up refocusing on the actual destruction of the universes story before it all gets zapped away by Secret Wars.
mjfmjfmjf's review against another edition
3.0
A little bit better. But still annoying and confusing. And in the end we are to believe that Steve Rogers will make it all right. Well I'm not buying it. Franklin Richards as always was cool. But the random future Avengers were not cool. Hawkeye versus Hawkeye though... Will this series never end?
drwilldabeast's review against another edition
adventurous
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
4.0
standardman's review against another edition
5.0
One of my favourite things in superhero comics is when they smash ahead into the future. This book keeps doing that over and over, increasing by an order of magnitude each time.
Hickman anchors this by character while pushing its ideas as far as possible.
It is Exactly My Kind Of Thing.
Hickman anchors this by character while pushing its ideas as far as possible.
It is Exactly My Kind Of Thing.
matterofmichael's review against another edition
5.0
+some great paneling right away
++Great reusing previous scenes on a new light.
+Body language in silent cap panels
+++I remember
+The face off.
-Captain being a bit more, unshackled with his anger meshes with my image of him slightly
++Time travel shenanigans, yes please, all the time
++Hawkeye/Hawkeye
++To issues in and this premise has me hooked. Please keep up these twists and don't let me down.
+Bad dreams
++Creepy thought of falling out of the future and rotting to dust
++Keeps me guessing with new twists and giving me futures that are far from expected. Hard to keep pulling that off over and over
+Good wrap up and cliff hanger for the next volume
-also a bit weird for Captain to not really change his intentional plan?? At least he's not as angry maybe?
grilledcheesesamurai's review against another edition
4.0
Doo-Dee-Da! This one was a gooder!
It was all soo...timey wimey.
Cap and some Avengers are flung forward in time because of the infinity gems and worlds colliding and...well...if you haven't been keeping up...you probably shouldn't be starting here. Go back to the first volume and fill up the tank.
Hell...I AM caught up and this story hurts my brain.
I would have probably given this five full stars...but I'm taking one away because a good chunk of this volume is just Cap dealing with shit. This isn't a solo book...it's a team book. So yeah, I'm yoinking a star for that.
Still, there was some seriously cool stuff in this one. The arc is classic Hickman doing his thang and he's doing it well. It's pretty clear this far into the game how its all going to spiral into this summer's Secret War event.
It's getting me all antsy and shit. I'm excited!