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eve_reads's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
⁕ So much of Vicious focused on Victor's perspective, whereas Vengeful gives more focus to the origin stories of Eli and other characters. The addition of these details strengthened my understanding of character development and choices in the series overall.
⁕ I am SO HERE for the female super villian. I love the exploration of power and greed through her eyes. I love her glaring faults and ugly hopes. She is definitely one of my new favorite characters.
⁕ I complained in my review of Vicious that the book was not as violent or gory as people claimed. This book definitely rectifies that. The stakes are RAISED.
⁕ Somehow, V.E. Schwab manages to write about violence and gore like poetry. Her style never ceases to amaze me.
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Graphic: Gun violence, Torture, and Violence
Moderate: Animal death, Chronic illness, Death, Sexual content, and Murder
Minor: Sexual assault
egj220's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Graphic: Animal death and Torture
alexiab's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
The shift in focus away from Victor and Eli, and spending so much time on backstory for new characters that still didn’t feel important, threw a bit of a wrench in the story for me. Of all the new characters, I found June the most interesting and I think she got the least amount of development. I couldn’t find it in me to care about Marcella, and I wish more had gone into Sydney and Mitch, or even more time with Victor and Eli.
Overall I still enjoyed this book and I love what I did get for Victor and Eli, but a lot of the side stuff felt like filler that wasn’t necessary, especially since a lot of it clearly won’t be brought into the third book when it’s eventually released.
Graphic: Animal death, Body horror, Chronic illness, Confinement, Death, Gore, Gun violence, Self harm, Torture, Violence, Blood, Medical content, Medical trauma, and Murder
alice_clay's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Death, Physical abuse, Torture, Blood, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Child abuse, Gun violence, and Toxic friendship
Minor: Animal death
jenna11's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
5.0
Graphic: Animal death, Death, and Gun violence
rachelunabridged's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
was vicious better than vengeful? imo, big yes.
was i disappointed in vengeful? tbh, not really. vicious wrapped up so well + felt like its own stand-alone story; i feel like vengeful is almost like a bonus story. like you don't have to read it to complete the story from vicious, but if you enjoyed vicious, here's some extra time with the characters we know and love.
would i recommend vengeful? if you loved vicious + want to see more of the characters, i would say go into this with lower expectations.
ultimately, what made me feel like this read was less compelling is how stretched it felt. there was just entirely too much going on at any given time with all of the new characters + there just seemed to be no clear focus. it really felt like the story was heavily centered around marcella, but then victor + the crew were kinda shoehorned in with no real purpose until the end.
i definitely came away feeling like if it had been written with entirely new characters, this might've been a stronger story. or even if our main characters were given better reasons to be involved.
Graphic: Death, Gun violence, Violence, Blood, Kidnapping, and Murder
Moderate: Animal death
graybat's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Death, Violence, and Blood
Moderate: Animal death, Gun violence, and Medical trauma
Minor: Domestic abuse
kodi_rae's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Body horror, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Torture, and Blood
Moderate: Animal death, Confinement, Gun violence, Sexism, Medical content, and Medical trauma
Minor: Suicide, Suicide attempt, and Fire/Fire injury
solouncapitulomas's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
This was, like the first book, a perfect mix of X-Men, The Umbrella Academy and some of The Gifted perhaps. A perfect plot twist on the typical "superhero" story, feels like reading a comic or watching a movie about people with powers, characters that not only can be morally gray but usually cross the line to the dark side, no morals or qualms at all.
Took my long enough but finally finished this book, must admit that I didn't want it to end so I avoided the ending a lot. I knew we are getting a third book but my heart cannot resist more waiting for book announcement like with the second book of ninth house. I just want to end a series for once, that is all.
Okay, enough sobbing, time to talk about this wonderful book:
I was very excited to pick this sequel, not only because I liked the first book but also for the reason that I wanted to explore V.E. Schwab recent writing, the first book is from 2013 and her first adult novel, this is from 2018. More recent and, as I suspected, with a better writing than the first one and an amazing plot.
I really want to get this "out of the way" so regarding Eli's past, I must admit it hurt a little to read, he was just a child and I felt bad for that kid suffering so much, losing his mom, killing his abuser. Spending sm time hearing people saying he was "weird" and when he finally found a loving family, lost that too. I was so happy to finally see his pov on his first meeting with Victor (my fav character btw) and even tho what he did was still bad and I am not a Eli Ever apologist, he was fucking broken and I kinda respect that? still mad about how he killed a possible Magneto, more of a Polaris honestly, but I love those too and it hurt we didn't get to see so many powers he got rid of. I didn't even got to know about the NDE or the last thoughts they had before dying, that's just rude Eliot.
Moving on, the found family trope had me on leash, per usual, Sidney, Mitch, Dol and Victor are the weirdest family of them all and if Dol dies once again, I swear to god, I will throw a fit. Let that dog rest, I beg you, Victoria.
I want to take some time to address some of the characters we recently met, just the ones that stuck with me:
1. Marcella was our introduction, and when she said I will ruin you I just knew her power was going to be good, Marcus deserved it all, he had it coming! But also se was really unstable and she did remind me of Eli a lot sometimes. I love the throwback when she went to the party with her sucky husband and he said "let them men talk" but she called them boys, proving that her attitude was there already. The EO condition only gave her the power to get what she wanted, tho it went up to her head way too quickly. She went cray cray but I enjoyed her antics regardless of it all.
2. June, how to define her? we don't know much about her past, yet, but hopefully we'll get more insight in the next book (Victorious) but we do know she is a kind of Mystique, Laila from The Gilded Wolves and Tessa Gray from TID, that how I memorized her power (making things harder for my brain since 1999). Even tho her shapeshifting may shine as her "better" ability, she also can read memories, it's deeper than a single imitation, that is why I also add the Tessa Gray in, if you've read TID you'll know (if not, go read it rn). Her last scene made me feel like reading Evelyn Hugo marriage to Mick Riva all over again, women are just amazing and manipulation has no limits when you learned to wield yourself like a weapon.
3. Dr. Thomas Haverty, freaking creepy man, does not deserve the doctor on his name, truly hated him and it had me cringing how he treated every the EOs and kept saying it was for "the greater good" when we all know deep down he wanted the praise and to satisfy his ego. The audacity of some baffles me.
Next topic, now that I mention the creepy doctor I wanted to add that I'm so glad that neither Eli nor Victor finished their careers as doctor, those two do not belong in the medical field, had to be said. Eli for obvious reasons but Victor has a view of medicine that even though I get it sometimes feels kinda "disconnected" from the human side of medicine, the sensible part. He is so detached of it all it sometimes scares me but I know that's the whole point of he being morally gray. He's not a good guy and I know it. Also I don't feel like he would understand the side of the medicine that deals with mental health, mainly because of the relationship he has with his parents and their line of work.
I wanted to add that I added lots of notes across the book (funny ones) and I hope to someday go back to ti and laugh at it, most of them are vine jokes but that's my humor.
I'm kinda sad about Dominic's death, he really got his act together and helped Victor until the end, obviously he wanted to keep the pain away but he was nice to Syd so I liked him and he will be missed.
About Eli's death, I was not surprised, I got spoiled bc I was googling him the other day (rookie mistake) but I didn't know how he died and it only made me more curious knowing he could actually die. It felt kinda right, Sydney getting her revenge without meaning to, she was only defending Victor. Oh and thank god she didn't bring Serena back, we do not need the siren back. No thanks.
Cannot wait for the next book, even if I have the bad feeling it will cost Victor his life; he is still dying after all, the remedy is only temporary and will eventually run out. He should try and find and permanent alternative but I don't think he would, now that Eli is dead I don't think he cares anymore. Next book he will wreak havoc and destroy EON, killed Stell already and that's just the beginning. I can feel it.
I need the last book right now and we don't even have a cover (or a date) I will die.
I will leave this with a few quotes I enjoyed:
“Perhaps she was glass.
But glass is only brittle until it breaks.
Then it’s sharp.”
“It was like the break after a storm. A stretch of peace before bad weather built again. It was only a matter of time—which was why every silent second mattered.”
“I saw became I think I saw became I couldn’t have seen became I didn’t see. Eyes were fickle. Minds were weak.”
“Everyone thought of magnets as having pull, attraction, but turn them around and they repelled. You could spend ages trying to force them together, and you’d get there, almost, but in the end they’d slide off.”
“People looked at her and assumed a whole lot. That a pretty face meant an empty head, that a girl like her was only after an easy life, that she would be satisfied with luxury, instead of power—as if you couldn’t want both.”
“Once is chance, twice, coincidence. Collect a third, and you have a pattern.”
“Normal is overrated. Spoken like someone who didn’t have to work so hard at it. Who hadn’t needed normal to survive.”
“Doubt was a slow, insidious force, wearing away at solid things. ”
“Knowledge may be power, but money buys both.”
“You look like Snow White killed the queen and stole the mirror.”
“Every object had a shatter point, a limitation to its tensile strength.
Apply enough force, and it would break.”
Pd: Just thought I should add that both Eli and Dominic’s bodies staying frozen and the fact that we know they were not cremated may or may not be end in both of them resurrected. I saw this but hadn’t mentioned it thinking I was “exaggerating” but I saw some people on tumblr talking about it and maybe it is not so crazy a theory?
I was listening to Burning Pile by Mother Mother & The Fear by The Score while writing this review
'kay, I'm out
Bye
Graphic: Death, Domestic abuse, Gun violence, Suicide, and Murder
Moderate: Animal death, Cursing, Blood, Medical trauma, and Death of parent
sepitz's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Death, Gun violence, Violence, Blood, Medical trauma, and Murder
Moderate: Animal death