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maya_moksha's review against another edition
adventurous
informative
slow-paced
3.0
A great journey with lots of insights. Will try to read first few books that make The Histories again. Due to my preference of anthropology over fighting, out of the 9 books the 2nd was my favorite.
warreng's review against another edition
4.0
Part encyclopaedia, part travel guide, part war chronicles, The Histories written by Herodotus around 455 BC is a rambling assortment of likely truth and undoubted imagination which finally culminates in the war between the Persian Empire and the Greeks, specifically Athens and Sparta. Along the way we witness numerous conflicts around the Eastern Mediterranean, and pictures of the various civilizations, including Persia, Sparta, Egypt, Ethiopia, Arabia, India, and numerous others.
The Histories have been divided into 9 chapters or ‘books’ with the final three describing the war between Xerxes’ Persian Empire forces and the Greeks, touching lightly on the Battle of Marathon in book 6 before the ultimate clash of armies at Thermopylae, and navies at Salamis, as depicted in Aeschylus’ The Persians.
My copy is the Penguin edition (ISBN 9780140449082) translated by Aubrey de Selincourt and revised by John Marincola, with helpful maps and numerous footnotes.
My thoughts: Herodotus was the first writer to attempt to record history putting men at the source of their own decisions without the continual presence of various Gods (although reliance on consulting the advice of the Oracles was a very significant strategy to reassure kings they were doing the right thing). Herodotus is called the Father of History but also the Father of Lies, as although he tries to separate his personally verified facts from hearsay, his natural history at least is very imaginative (dog-headed men, flying snakes migrating from Arabia to Egypt, hippos with horses’ manes and tails, crocodiles with ears and golden earrings, and cats leaping deliberately into house fires)
Herodotus treats many of the earlier Persian actions without rancour, particularly those of Cyrus and his successor Darius. Xerxes is not as favourably depicted, as demonstrated by his madness when his bridges spanning the Hellespont are destroyed by storm and he decides to have the river flogged with whips and branded with hot irons in retribution.
When the two forces are about to meet, Herodotus makes much of the fact that it was Athens’ decision to stay firm and resist the invaders that saved Greece (and subsequently Europe) from Asiatic tyranny, despite Sparta providing considerable manpower and the generals to run both the sea and land campaigns, most notably Leonidas, King of Sparta and his famous 300 countrymen who stood and resisted the Persians at the Pass of Thermopylae.
Again the logic of reading the classics in chronological order is useful to me, as mention is made not only of the events in Homer’s Iliad, but also the works of Hesiod, Aesop, Sappho, Pindar and Aeschylus.
Favourite lines/passages:
“No one is fool enough to choose war instead of peace – in peace sons bury fathers, but in war fathers bury sons.” Croesus, defeated King of Lydia
“Retreat is no longer possible for either of us ; if we do not inflict the wound, we shall assuredly receive it” Xerxes, King of Persia commits his empire to the War
And what Monty Python fan could resist the description of the Indian tribe the Padaei, who live on raw meat, and especially eat any of their friends who fall ill, before the ‘meat’ can be ruined, despite the protestations of the sick person that they are not sick or feeling better.
This was book #30 in my journey to read all the classics of world literature. You can join me at my blog : chronolit.com
The Histories have been divided into 9 chapters or ‘books’ with the final three describing the war between Xerxes’ Persian Empire forces and the Greeks, touching lightly on the Battle of Marathon in book 6 before the ultimate clash of armies at Thermopylae, and navies at Salamis, as depicted in Aeschylus’ The Persians.
My copy is the Penguin edition (ISBN 9780140449082) translated by Aubrey de Selincourt and revised by John Marincola, with helpful maps and numerous footnotes.
My thoughts: Herodotus was the first writer to attempt to record history putting men at the source of their own decisions without the continual presence of various Gods (although reliance on consulting the advice of the Oracles was a very significant strategy to reassure kings they were doing the right thing). Herodotus is called the Father of History but also the Father of Lies, as although he tries to separate his personally verified facts from hearsay, his natural history at least is very imaginative (dog-headed men, flying snakes migrating from Arabia to Egypt, hippos with horses’ manes and tails, crocodiles with ears and golden earrings, and cats leaping deliberately into house fires)
Herodotus treats many of the earlier Persian actions without rancour, particularly those of Cyrus and his successor Darius. Xerxes is not as favourably depicted, as demonstrated by his madness when his bridges spanning the Hellespont are destroyed by storm and he decides to have the river flogged with whips and branded with hot irons in retribution.
When the two forces are about to meet, Herodotus makes much of the fact that it was Athens’ decision to stay firm and resist the invaders that saved Greece (and subsequently Europe) from Asiatic tyranny, despite Sparta providing considerable manpower and the generals to run both the sea and land campaigns, most notably Leonidas, King of Sparta and his famous 300 countrymen who stood and resisted the Persians at the Pass of Thermopylae.
Again the logic of reading the classics in chronological order is useful to me, as mention is made not only of the events in Homer’s Iliad, but also the works of Hesiod, Aesop, Sappho, Pindar and Aeschylus.
Favourite lines/passages:
“No one is fool enough to choose war instead of peace – in peace sons bury fathers, but in war fathers bury sons.” Croesus, defeated King of Lydia
“Retreat is no longer possible for either of us ; if we do not inflict the wound, we shall assuredly receive it” Xerxes, King of Persia commits his empire to the War
And what Monty Python fan could resist the description of the Indian tribe the Padaei, who live on raw meat, and especially eat any of their friends who fall ill, before the ‘meat’ can be ruined, despite the protestations of the sick person that they are not sick or feeling better.
This was book #30 in my journey to read all the classics of world literature. You can join me at my blog : chronolit.com
jamtaco's review against another edition
5.0
The single most based thing I've ever read. The original "Source? My source is that I made it the fuck up". Deeply entertaining 10/10.
the_color_of_the_wheat_fields's review against another edition
challenging
informative
slow-paced
2.5
aruejohns's review against another edition
2.0
I was really excited to discover that there's an outline at the back of the book, because prior to that discovery I had issues understanding literally anything that was happening. Good primary source, but not very good reading for entertainment. Also, really long.
archaeomancer's review against another edition
4.0
Herodotus really is a pretty fun read for the most part! I especially enjoyed the parts about Egypt. He can be a fairly unreliable narrator; he has quite the funny hang up on the Nile origin source and doesn't believe it when he's told it starts from melted snow water I believe in Libya. He also doesn't have the nicest opinion about women and they are, as often times in ancient historical literature and even into some contemporary times, listed as chattel a d booty for the most part. But you don't go to ancient literature for enlightened feminist treatises :')
What this history *is* is a quite fascinating look into the times that he was researching and speaking about. He goes to Great Lengths to explicitly state when he is just reciting what he was told versus what he has seen which I appreciated. I think some of his bad rap is an unreliable narrator comes from him pointing out these stories and tales he is told from the people themselves, but I think it's an excellent addition. Stories like those he brings up are a good way to see into the minds and lives of the people he's talking about.
What this history *is* is a quite fascinating look into the times that he was researching and speaking about. He goes to Great Lengths to explicitly state when he is just reciting what he was told versus what he has seen which I appreciated. I think some of his bad rap is an unreliable narrator comes from him pointing out these stories and tales he is told from the people themselves, but I think it's an excellent addition. Stories like those he brings up are a good way to see into the minds and lives of the people he's talking about.