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starkanthonys's review against another edition
3.0
deadshot calling superman batman's boy? my crops: flourishing. my wig: flew. the rest is mediocre at best i can't wait for this arc to be done
bookmarked642's review against another edition
4.0
I went camping in sunny old Wales last week, which gave me a lot of time for reading. Sadly, I had no internet or phone signal, and so am having to write all the reviews now. First of all is the collection of comics in Justice League vs. Suicide Squad.
While the Squad are busy dealing with Apex and the stolen Quake Pulsar, Batman and the Justice League are hunting them down. They've decided it's too dangerous to have a team of criminals wandering around, and are insistent on taking them down. Amanda Waller isn't about to let that happen, though!
The League end up imprisoned in Belle Reve, while the original Suicide Squad (Task Force XI) are broken out of prison by Maxwell Lord. With their help, the Heart of Darkness is found, and Eclipso takes hold of the world - including the Justice League.
I always love reading Suicide Squad comics, especially where Harley is prominent - she's probably my favourite character. And it was really interesting to see how Batman and the League eventually work alongside the Squad. The dialogue between them, the little bits of banter that went on throughout the volume, was great. And the comedic tone of the Suicide Squad comics was present throughout, which I really loved.
And then, just to top it all off, we meet Waller's kids at the end. I found the ending pretty intriguing, really. It was definitely interesting to see into Waller's life a bit more, outside of her work.
A really enjoyable novel. Funny and exciting, a strong 4 or even 4.5 stars I think.
While the Squad are busy dealing with Apex and the stolen Quake Pulsar, Batman and the Justice League are hunting them down. They've decided it's too dangerous to have a team of criminals wandering around, and are insistent on taking them down. Amanda Waller isn't about to let that happen, though!
The League end up imprisoned in Belle Reve, while the original Suicide Squad (Task Force XI) are broken out of prison by Maxwell Lord. With their help, the Heart of Darkness is found, and Eclipso takes hold of the world - including the Justice League.
I always love reading Suicide Squad comics, especially where Harley is prominent - she's probably my favourite character. And it was really interesting to see how Batman and the League eventually work alongside the Squad. The dialogue between them, the little bits of banter that went on throughout the volume, was great. And the comedic tone of the Suicide Squad comics was present throughout, which I really loved.
And then, just to top it all off, we meet Waller's kids at the end. I found the ending pretty intriguing, really. It was definitely interesting to see into Waller's life a bit more, outside of her work.
A really enjoyable novel. Funny and exciting, a strong 4 or even 4.5 stars I think.
birdmanseven's review against another edition
3.0
I mean, the Justice League should just win right? They are the Justice League.
This was a little sloppy, but still a decent matchup.
We covered this a bit on Comic Book Coffee Break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1H7ODwyL4w
This was a little sloppy, but still a decent matchup.
We covered this a bit on Comic Book Coffee Break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1H7ODwyL4w
alexandra_92's review against another edition
4.0
I knew that at some point this going to happen! I liked the art, the horrifying and sad times of the plot!
echoes01's review against another edition
4.0
Yes, it has its flaws, but it’s so much fun I happily overlook them. The art is gorgeous, the action sequences are well done, and the characters play off of each other beautifully. Where else are you going to get to see Batman blow someone’s head off their shoulders? Where else would Amanda Waller get her comeuppance and laughed at to boot? Nowhere I can think of. At least not recently. No, the book isn’t Watchmen or Dark Knight Returns or anything close to those books we all talk about thirty years after they were written, but it’s a fun ride and I enjoyed it immensely. This was the comic that really got me back into collecting and it will always hold a special place in my heart.
captwinghead's review against another edition
3.0
** Received from Netgalley in exchange for an honest review **
3 stars
*** There are spoilers ahead!!! ***
This is a ridiculous plot.
I mean, you pretty much can’t go into this without shoving that fact aside and pretending that there’s a real fight here. There’s a solar powered alien with laser eyes, an Amazon, the king of Atlantis and the fastest man alive – against a team made up of a life-size crocodile, a crazed clown with a mallet and a guy that’s super into boomerangs? C’mon!
Anyway, I went into this knowing I’d have to pretend there was a real fight here. Even so, this was not a home run for me. Not by a longshot.
This begins with a montage of sorts to introduce the team in pretty much the same way the film does. Honestly, I could hear “House of the Rising Sun” in my head while Waller is walking Killer Frost through Belle Reve. We get page after page of expositional dialogue which was about as bad as the film. I pushed past this, though, because this is Rebirth so I think the writers were trying to make sure new fans would have no trouble understanding the characters.
This is the same team from the film with the addition of Killer Frost. Killer Frost is a character I’ve never been super jazzed to know more about outside of the Young Justice TV show because the version of her on CW’s the Flash is just terrible. I was surprised to find that she was pretty interesting here.
The only good part of the Suicide Squad team gets the most screen time of the squad, so I will commend the writers for that. Deadshot wore his mask most of the time so I wasn’t sure if they were making him similar to Will Smith’s version? I think so; I hope so. Whatever my complaints about that film, Smith was not one of them. He was actually one of the best parts and in this, they went for more of the nihilistic assassin character and that was a good choice.
There are three characters from the film that are barely here; Flag is in like two panels? I found it fascinating he was the one character from the movie they kind of left out. Katana got one more line here than she does in the film so… progress? Diablo has like two lines and then he just kind of disappears. He’s neutralized in an interesting way but that’s kind of the extent of his role here.
The two most annoying versions of two pretty annoying characters are in this book: Harley Quinn and Captain Boomerang.
- I’ve said it before but in 99% of Harley Quinn books, she is pretty much the most annoying character ever. I adore animated Harley and A. J. Lieberman’s run of Harley and that’s it. Ever since, her comics feel like someone’s constantly smacking me over the head with awful puns. While this is her best outfit in a long time, this version of her was no picnic. None of her lines or jokes worked for me and I honestly didn’t understand why she was here? She had no discernable skills of use against the Justice League? I mean, I understood more why Killer Croc was here than Harley. I give her a tiny bit of a pass because there was a wayyyyyyyy more annoying performance in this book from:
- Captain Boomerang. Every line out of his mouth made me want to punch him. None of his lines were funny. He’s introduced in this book while he’s on the toilet which, in retrospect, may have been a warning about what kind of character we were gonna get. We even got a mcfreakin’ “Dingo ate my baby” line. Seriously? Seriously? I just kept hearing Vinny Jones’ version of the Juggernaut in my head and you know what, I would’ve rather been watching X-Men: The Last Stand. These were some dire straits, my friend.
I would go into detail about the Justice League except this book really didn’t? Sure, I don’t need them to explain who Superman is or where his powers come from but I feel like we have the grand introduction to the Suicide Squad and their goals here but the Justice League just gets like two pages. Batsy has suspected Amanda was running a team of their past foes instead of keeping them locked up where they belong. The Flash and Friends are fearful of what could happen with Captain Boomerang (seriously, we gotta keep an eye on that guy) running around so they go out to stop them.
There’s a mission. I forgot to mention that but, trust me, it doesn’t really matter. We get our first battle as Waller tells the squad that if Superman captures them, she’ll kill them all. The one thing I liked about this was that the squad is definitely a-okay with killing. There was no question of whether they’d try to mow down the JL to stay alive. Aside from one of them, they all attack on cue.
It breaks down to:
- Killer Croc v. Aquaman – which was a lot cooler than I thought it would be.
- Harley Quinn v. Wonder Woman – c’mon
- The Green Lanterns v. El Diablo – this was pretty cool
- Enchantress v. Superman – makes sense
- Killer Frost v. Superman – okay… it had a point
- The Flash v. Captain Boomerang – this was just annoying
- Batman v. Deadshot – the coolest and most interesting of all of these.
Batman v. Deadshot had the most promise. If anything, I wanted more of a fight between them. They had an excellent history in the film and this book demonstrates some of the same. Batman despises him because he’s a hired gun that killed a man in front of his own daughter. Deadshot throws out this line:
There was so much more to work with here and I wish we had gotten more of it.
Anyway, eventually the JL ends up in Belle Reve. There’s a pretty kick ass scene with Batman in a straightjacket but this is where this book really went downhill for me. After this, we get introduced to another plot with another team of bad guys.
I haven’t mentioned Amanda Waller much and that’s because I’m torn as to whether or not I liked the way she was written here. She was pretty great in the film and this book maintains some of the good aspects of her character. She’s incredibly clever and manipulative and I appreciate that about her. There was only one moment where I thought she a little out of character and it’s when she’s putting on a fake German accent to make a joke. It seemed a little too lighthearted for her. The art switches twice near the end of the collection and I gotta say, the art in the throwback issue to the first Suicide Squad drew her horribly. She literally had no neck.
So, we get a whole issue on the history of Maxwell Lord and who could care? I kept thinking it would be like two pages and we’d return to the story but we get a whole issue on him. Why?
He recruits the original Suicide Squad – the B team of the B team is… the C team? Aside from Lobo, I’ve never heard nor cared about any of them.
- Doctor Polaris – Magneto-lite that raided Galactus’ wardrobe
- Lobo – the fifth member of KISS
- Emerald Empress - The (green) eye of Sauron
- Johnny Sorrow – Son of the Mask 2.0
- Rustam – a less interesting version of Beric Dondarion.
It takes what seems like a few minutes for this to become the Justice League and Suicide Squad v. Maxwell Lord’s Squad as they try to stop him from getting the Heart of Darkness, a diamond that lets its owner control people. Max wants it to amplify his suggestive powers so the JL gets over being imprisoned rather quickly to help the Suicide Squad stop him. This is Plot #2.
It’s almost immediately replaced by Plot #3.
Deadshot, Waller and Batsy find themselves in a basement or a vault of some sort separated from the others. While they’re down there, Max takes over the JL and tries to “fix” the world. The Green Lanterns ward the earth from alien attacks. Wondy protects the world leaders. The Flash dismantled all WMDs. Aquaman secured borders and shores. All of this using mind control.
Batsy, Waller and Deadshot endeavor to stop him with the aid of the Suicide Squad, who Maxwell felt secure enough to leave unpossessed. Batsy seems pretty sure they’re all going to die which… same. Then we get the panel where I checked out completely – Batman welcomes the Suicide Squad to the Justice League.
I’ll skip right to it: Maxwell gives up his evil, and frankly successful, plan because Waller makes him realize that people have been corrupted. Rather than try to fix that to some extent, he gives up immediately and asks her to help him fix it. This all leads to him “realizing” that she planned all of this. From the first Suicide Squad failing to Maxwell taking over the earth – Waller supposedly planned all of this to get Batsy’s roundabout approval of her team. C’mon. That seems so incredibly illogical and frankly, stupid. She was willing to risk all of those human lives to keep a team made up of criminals? I just don’t buy it.
The last issue is barely worth mentioning but it’s Waller’s family shaming her for her profession. At the end, I can’t quite tell if she feels any remorse at all. It was all just a bunch of shouting actually.
For a while, I couldn’t quite put my finger on what it was that didn’t work for me about this book. I’ve read some Suicide Squad comics and I’m fine with them. I quite enjoy them in small doses and I don’t think the film was an abomination. I haven’t read a ton of the Justice League but I like several of the characters individually. At the end, it was several elements that made this a no go for me:
- Harley was terrible but Captain Boomerang was worse. I hope I never have to read about this character again.
- I don’t think the writers knew what to do with Wonder Woman at all. She was barely used and I could have done without the implication that Maxwell brainwashed her to fawn over him like in that panel.
- The “conclusion” was way too unbelievable for me.
- Too many plots. Too many teams. Too many side characters that don’t matter at all.
- Finally: I have no idea why this book was called Suicide Squad v. Justice League . It was really Suicide Squad v. Justice League for an issue or two and then it became JL and Suicide Squad v. Maxwell Lord and the Prequels. Then Batman & the Skwad v. Maxwell Lord. I picked this up expecting some Injustice level plot where I had to check my DC history at the door and watch them fight each other for a volume but that’s not what I got. It’s a misleading title.
So, it’s not a recommend from me. If you want to check out the Suicide Squad fighting the Justice League, just buy the first two issues if they’re stored at your local comic book store.
3 stars.
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3 stars
*** There are spoilers ahead!!! ***
Isn’t this a little one-sided? That dude just has boomerangs.
This is a ridiculous plot.
I mean, you pretty much can’t go into this without shoving that fact aside and pretending that there’s a real fight here. There’s a solar powered alien with laser eyes, an Amazon, the king of Atlantis and the fastest man alive – against a team made up of a life-size crocodile, a crazed clown with a mallet and a guy that’s super into boomerangs? C’mon!
Anyway, I went into this knowing I’d have to pretend there was a real fight here. Even so, this was not a home run for me. Not by a longshot.
This begins with a montage of sorts to introduce the team in pretty much the same way the film does. Honestly, I could hear “House of the Rising Sun” in my head while Waller is walking Killer Frost through Belle Reve. We get page after page of expositional dialogue which was about as bad as the film. I pushed past this, though, because this is Rebirth so I think the writers were trying to make sure new fans would have no trouble understanding the characters.
This is the same team from the film with the addition of Killer Frost. Killer Frost is a character I’ve never been super jazzed to know more about outside of the Young Justice TV show because the version of her on CW’s the Flash is just terrible. I was surprised to find that she was pretty interesting here.
The only good part of the Suicide Squad team gets the most screen time of the squad, so I will commend the writers for that. Deadshot wore his mask most of the time so I wasn’t sure if they were making him similar to Will Smith’s version? I think so; I hope so. Whatever my complaints about that film, Smith was not one of them. He was actually one of the best parts and in this, they went for more of the nihilistic assassin character and that was a good choice.
There are three characters from the film that are barely here; Flag is in like two panels? I found it fascinating he was the one character from the movie they kind of left out. Katana got one more line here than she does in the film so… progress? Diablo has like two lines and then he just kind of disappears. He’s neutralized in an interesting way but that’s kind of the extent of his role here.
The two most annoying versions of two pretty annoying characters are in this book: Harley Quinn and Captain Boomerang.
- I’ve said it before but in 99% of Harley Quinn books, she is pretty much the most annoying character ever. I adore animated Harley and A. J. Lieberman’s run of Harley and that’s it. Ever since, her comics feel like someone’s constantly smacking me over the head with awful puns. While this is her best outfit in a long time, this version of her was no picnic. None of her lines or jokes worked for me and I honestly didn’t understand why she was here? She had no discernable skills of use against the Justice League? I mean, I understood more why Killer Croc was here than Harley. I give her a tiny bit of a pass because there was a wayyyyyyyy more annoying performance in this book from:
- Captain Boomerang. Every line out of his mouth made me want to punch him. None of his lines were funny. He’s introduced in this book while he’s on the toilet which, in retrospect, may have been a warning about what kind of character we were gonna get. We even got a mcfreakin’ “Dingo ate my baby” line. Seriously? Seriously? I just kept hearing Vinny Jones’ version of the Juggernaut in my head and you know what, I would’ve rather been watching X-Men: The Last Stand. These were some dire straits, my friend.
I would go into detail about the Justice League except this book really didn’t? Sure, I don’t need them to explain who Superman is or where his powers come from but I feel like we have the grand introduction to the Suicide Squad and their goals here but the Justice League just gets like two pages. Batsy has suspected Amanda was running a team of their past foes instead of keeping them locked up where they belong. The Flash and Friends are fearful of what could happen with Captain Boomerang (seriously, we gotta keep an eye on that guy) running around so they go out to stop them.
There’s a mission. I forgot to mention that but, trust me, it doesn’t really matter. We get our first battle as Waller tells the squad that if Superman captures them, she’ll kill them all. The one thing I liked about this was that the squad is definitely a-okay with killing. There was no question of whether they’d try to mow down the JL to stay alive. Aside from one of them, they all attack on cue.
It breaks down to:
- Killer Croc v. Aquaman – which was a lot cooler than I thought it would be.
- Harley Quinn v. Wonder Woman – c’mon
- The Green Lanterns v. El Diablo – this was pretty cool
- Enchantress v. Superman – makes sense
- Killer Frost v. Superman – okay… it had a point
- The Flash v. Captain Boomerang – this was just annoying
- Batman v. Deadshot – the coolest and most interesting of all of these.
Batman v. Deadshot had the most promise. If anything, I wanted more of a fight between them. They had an excellent history in the film and this book demonstrates some of the same. Batman despises him because he’s a hired gun that killed a man in front of his own daughter. Deadshot throws out this line:
You talk pretty tough for a guy who pushes children into battle! At least I don’t let kids fight for me!
There was so much more to work with here and I wish we had gotten more of it.
Anyway, eventually the JL ends up in Belle Reve. There’s a pretty kick ass scene with Batman in a straightjacket but this is where this book really went downhill for me. After this, we get introduced to another plot with another team of bad guys.
I haven’t mentioned Amanda Waller much and that’s because I’m torn as to whether or not I liked the way she was written here. She was pretty great in the film and this book maintains some of the good aspects of her character. She’s incredibly clever and manipulative and I appreciate that about her. There was only one moment where I thought she a little out of character and it’s when she’s putting on a fake German accent to make a joke. It seemed a little too lighthearted for her. The art switches twice near the end of the collection and I gotta say, the art in the throwback issue to the first Suicide Squad drew her horribly. She literally had no neck.
So, we get a whole issue on the history of Maxwell Lord and who could care? I kept thinking it would be like two pages and we’d return to the story but we get a whole issue on him. Why?
He recruits the original Suicide Squad – the B team of the B team is… the C team? Aside from Lobo, I’ve never heard nor cared about any of them.
- Doctor Polaris – Magneto-lite that raided Galactus’ wardrobe
- Lobo – the fifth member of KISS
- Emerald Empress - The (green) eye of Sauron
- Johnny Sorrow – Son of the Mask 2.0
- Rustam – a less interesting version of Beric Dondarion.
It takes what seems like a few minutes for this to become the Justice League and Suicide Squad v. Maxwell Lord’s Squad as they try to stop him from getting the Heart of Darkness, a diamond that lets its owner control people. Max wants it to amplify his suggestive powers so the JL gets over being imprisoned rather quickly to help the Suicide Squad stop him. This is Plot #2.
It’s almost immediately replaced by Plot #3.
Deadshot, Waller and Batsy find themselves in a basement or a vault of some sort separated from the others. While they’re down there, Max takes over the JL and tries to “fix” the world. The Green Lanterns ward the earth from alien attacks. Wondy protects the world leaders. The Flash dismantled all WMDs. Aquaman secured borders and shores. All of this using mind control.
Batsy, Waller and Deadshot endeavor to stop him with the aid of the Suicide Squad, who Maxwell felt secure enough to leave unpossessed. Batsy seems pretty sure they’re all going to die which… same. Then we get the panel where I checked out completely – Batman welcomes the Suicide Squad to the Justice League.
I’ll skip right to it: Maxwell gives up his evil, and frankly successful, plan because Waller makes him realize that people have been corrupted. Rather than try to fix that to some extent, he gives up immediately and asks her to help him fix it. This all leads to him “realizing” that she planned all of this. From the first Suicide Squad failing to Maxwell taking over the earth – Waller supposedly planned all of this to get Batsy’s roundabout approval of her team. C’mon. That seems so incredibly illogical and frankly, stupid. She was willing to risk all of those human lives to keep a team made up of criminals? I just don’t buy it.
The last issue is barely worth mentioning but it’s Waller’s family shaming her for her profession. At the end, I can’t quite tell if she feels any remorse at all. It was all just a bunch of shouting actually.
For a while, I couldn’t quite put my finger on what it was that didn’t work for me about this book. I’ve read some Suicide Squad comics and I’m fine with them. I quite enjoy them in small doses and I don’t think the film was an abomination. I haven’t read a ton of the Justice League but I like several of the characters individually. At the end, it was several elements that made this a no go for me:
- Harley was terrible but Captain Boomerang was worse. I hope I never have to read about this character again.
- I don’t think the writers knew what to do with Wonder Woman at all. She was barely used and I could have done without the implication that Maxwell brainwashed her to fawn over him like in that panel.
- The “conclusion” was way too unbelievable for me.
- Too many plots. Too many teams. Too many side characters that don’t matter at all.
- Finally: I have no idea why this book was called Suicide Squad v. Justice League . It was really Suicide Squad v. Justice League for an issue or two and then it became JL and Suicide Squad v. Maxwell Lord and the Prequels. Then Batman & the Skwad v. Maxwell Lord. I picked this up expecting some Injustice level plot where I had to check my DC history at the door and watch them fight each other for a volume but that’s not what I got. It’s a misleading title.
So, it’s not a recommend from me. If you want to check out the Suicide Squad fighting the Justice League, just buy the first two issues if they’re stored at your local comic book store.
3 stars.
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clockworkp's review against another edition
4.0
4.5
De verdad que odio a Waller, cuando parece que no es tan mala persona boom plan maquiavélico. Sinceramente todo el rollo final con sus hijos me pareció poco realista, que una mujer como ella tuviera una familia tan grande me parece poco probable.
De verdad que odio a Waller, cuando parece que no es tan mala persona boom plan maquiavélico. Sinceramente todo el rollo final con sus hijos me pareció poco realista, que una mujer como ella tuviera una familia tan grande me parece poco probable.
miamollekin's review
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
liana's review against another edition
4.0
This was actually amazing!! I have to admit that my previous experience with Suicide Squad comicbooks wasn't all that pleasant; I usually found them cliche, messy and all over the place, unoriginal and boring. This crossover event, however, was a true blessing. The characters were on point, the action sequences were really well done and beautifully executed, the artwork was very beautiful and close to my personal taste. The plot was, by far, one of the most interesting plots I've seen in a while in a DC comic book; full of twists and revelations, fast-paced and action-packed, Justice League vs. Suicide Squad is DC at its finest. At first I was a bit afraid of the power imbalance because, let's be honest, any member of the League would be able to take down the entire Squad like it's no big deal. But, I found that imbalance handled in a beautiful, believable way, which ultimately made the storyline for me.
**An ARC was provided via Netgalley in exchange of an honest review. **
**An ARC was provided via Netgalley in exchange of an honest review. **