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multimindz's review against another edition
- Diverse cast of characters? No
3.75
I liked the movie waaaaaaay more than the book. The movie storyline was more succinct whereas in the book, I sometimes had problems following the different storylines. The book made sense but it felt more like White Guy Meandering & Mulling About Society whereas the movie got straight to the point.
What knocked my score to the 3's (I wanted to give it a 5 because it is V for Vendetta alone but that's not fair) is the use of Black People As Society's Canaries trope, where there are no active Black characters talking, living, etc in the forefront. Nope, we're in the background being .... murdered and treated poorly and all the White folks who star in the work do is go "Wow, look at how poorly the Black people are being treated, they're always the first to go." They do nothing but wait for all or most of the Black folks to be eradicated before doing anything, while all the while going "This world is sick, look at how they treat the Black people [and how I do nothing because why have genuine human compassion for Black people, who are also human (News Flash, it's true), until they die. Which works best for me because at least they're gone, I just have to act sad about it]." There are smarter & more humane ways to say or depict the issues of totalitarianism, facism and wide-spread prejudice. The movie handled it better, at least removed the "Black People as Society's Canary" trope.
The sexism is wowser in the book. You have the daft-but-cute 16 yr old Evey Hammond (aged up in the movie and good thing, that!) who seemed to be an easily led, doe-eyed lamb that constantly trailed out things that made V look impressive, how she would go "oh, I'm so weak and frail but you're so big and strong" (I'm paraphrasing here). It clearly didn't look like some super meta-cognitive move to quip on society's sexism by Alan Moore, it just looked like standard White Straight Cis Man Makes Comic Books And Includes Gender Beside "Man" behavior. He triiiiiiiiied? 🤷🏿♀️ And flopped. Even had a Lady Macbeth type character that I almost expected to say "Out, out, damned spot" at one point." I get the whole "messed up ppl like power" thing but that all could have been told way better, when it came to the women. It instead read more like "What I, a straight man, believe a woman gunning for power would act like." The movie was a bit better, had it's drawbacks (thanks to the source material, they can only do so much) but the book was more heavy handed & leaded with the built-in sexism.
It's like Alan Moore was trying to say very poignant things about society but because it's clear via his work he doesn't really interact much (if at all) with whole slices of society (*koff*AnyoneNotWhite,NotMan,NotStraightAndEspeciallyNoCombos/Intersections*wheeeeeeeeze**koff*) it comes off as very "White Man Muses About Society, Ignores His Own Glaring Blindspots", which, bro, is already so many books, dear gods. We already have 1984, Brave New World, the list goes on and on and on and! At least the movie was good. I think if Alan Moore widened up his friend circle (at least to the point a group picture wouldn't look like something the National Front would hardly blink at) before and during the time he created this graphic novel, it would have been a super knock-out, probably.
Perhaps I'm also just tired of "White Guy Muses About Society, Ignores Own Blindspots" works. Been hearing and reading them since I was a kid (usually not by choice, at least this time was), it's lame, myopic af and they miss a lot.
Those two things I mentioned mostly knocked the score to 3.75. I recommend the movie over the graphic novel. At least the movie is thrilling
Graphic: Deportation, Emotional abuse, Forced institutionalization, Genocide, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Kidnapping, Medical content, Medical trauma, Mental illness, Abandonment, Confinement, Toxic friendship, Classism, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, Racism, Xenophobia, Death, Misogyny, Murder, Pandemic/Epidemic, Physical abuse, Police brutality, and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Death of parent, Grief, Infidelity, Drug use, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Violence, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Antisemitism, Lesbophobia, Sexual harassment, Sexual content, Adult/minor relationship, War, Cursing, Domestic abuse, Injury/Injury detail, Racial slurs, Religious bigotry, Sexism, and Torture
Minor: Rape
bold_badger's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Confinement, Violence, Murder, and Torture
Moderate: Kidnapping, Toxic relationship, Homophobia, Lesbophobia, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Xenophobia, and Domestic abuse
Minor: Abandonment, War, Suicidal thoughts, Sexual content, and Genocide
bearystarry's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: War, Medical trauma, Genocide, Racial slurs, Racism, Violence, Torture, Sexual harassment, Homophobia, Hate crime, Grief, Forced institutionalization, Fire/Fire injury, Emotional abuse, Drug use, Death of parent, Death, Colonisation, Alcohol, Religious bigotry, Police brutality, Physical abuse, Pedophilia, Murder, Cursing, Lesbophobia, Infidelity, Domestic abuse, Confinement, Gun violence, Classism, Blood, and Biphobia
Moderate: Sexual assault, Sexual violence, and Sexual content
redheadorganist's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
Graphic: Blood, Death, Drug use, Fire/Fire injury, Gun violence, Torture, Forced institutionalization, Genocide, Mental illness, and Pedophilia
Moderate: Sexual content
Minor: Lesbophobia and Homophobia
yaboiellis's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Homophobia, Injury/Injury detail, Lesbophobia, Kidnapping, Death, Gore, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Adult/minor relationship, Emotional abuse, Grief, Physical abuse, Bullying, Classism, Gaslighting, Child abuse, Forced institutionalization, Genocide, Pedophilia, Police brutality, Blood, Domestic abuse, Infidelity, Body horror, Death of parent, Confinement, Cursing, Drug use, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: War, Alcohol, Trafficking, Alcoholism, Torture, Xenophobia, and Violence
Minor: Racial slurs, Religious bigotry, Sexual assault, Stalking, Suicidal thoughts, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Rape, Sexism, and Sexual violence
steveatwaywords's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.75
First, though, I have to praise the novel for its politics and references, far more complicated and layered than anything seen in the McTeigue film scripted by the Wachowskis. Moore's world--a mix of 1930s noir and post-apocalyptic totalitarian fantasy--is fairly thick in its home-front power relationships. This is really enjoyable for a dark immersion, if at times a bit bewildering. And while Portman made a fair Evey in the film, she is little like the much-challenged Evey of this work.
Where the story grew ever weaker for me was in the growing omniscience and omnipotence of the title character. Without spoilers, V has more control over these complex comings and goings than seems possible. He is ever-present at the right moments, ever-predicting the choices others will make, and somehow prepared for it all with an arsenal of resources. This is, unfortunately, too quickly explained away through a conspiratorial cliche. Ah, well. In this area, the scripting by the Wachowskis made a more satisfying tension of story, an improvement through film I rarely admit to.
Moore, as he was writing, confessed he was inspired by a bevy of classic writers, from Orwell to Bradbury to and from Harlan Ellison to Shakespeare. A worthy undertaking. But what each of these other writers accomplishes, along with their oppressive power structures resisted by citizenry, is the fallibility, the internal conflicts which center the drama around the characters themselves. Moore's symbolism for V--often clever and widely connected to history--is, unfortunately, too abstract for us to connect to in these ways. Evey, then, is a likely substitute for our empathy, and she works in this way, though she appears far too seldom to be as effective as she might be.
"V for Vendetta" is a great introduction to themes of resistance and totalitarianism for readers unfamiliar with other literature. But I've seen other graphic works accomplish far more in less space. Likely--though I haven't yet read them--Moore develops into a stronger writer in his later works. If anyone has a suggestion what I might read next, let me know.
Graphic: Violence, Gun violence, and Torture
Moderate: Sexual content and Sexism
While one might expect violence and brutality from a totalitarian state based on 1930s noir, the sexist tropes in the work have aged particularly badly.georgiakirkegard's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Graphic: Forced institutionalization, Gun violence, Violence, Toxic relationship, Death, Kidnapping, and Torture
Moderate: Homophobia, Medical content, War, Death of parent, Racism, Sexual content, Pedophilia, Blood, Infidelity, and Genocide
narzibenoucdel's review
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Moderate: Blood, Death, Torture, and Violence
Minor: Homophobia, Racism, Sexism, and Sexual content