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4.29 AVERAGE
4.29 AVERAGE
adventurous
challenging
funny
hopeful
mysterious
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
This book was my gateway to hard sci-fi and, until I read Cixin Liu, was the best thing I'd ever read. The space opera is alive and well with this series (albeit, an intricate and intellectually stimulating one with character depth not typically seen in such works); however, Vinge's ability to weave advanced physics, technology, and biology into such a classic format is unparalleled. At times the jargon may deter a reader, but don't allow it to do so. The payoff is coming. The future imagined here is so clear and so beautifully and interestingly painted that I often think Vinge (literally) knows how we got here and who else is out there.
It's fun, it's weird, it's deep, it's wild, and it's worth the read. I recommend starting with this book as, chronologically, it comes first.
It's fun, it's weird, it's deep, it's wild, and it's worth the read. I recommend starting with this book as, chronologically, it comes first.
Sometimes sci fi just hits the spot. This one took a long time to get into, partially b/c it was presented as a prequel to "A Fire Upon the Deep." I spent the first 100 or so pages trying to remember more details of that book, and figure out the linkages, to no avail. But once I finally gave up and just enjoyed it for what it was, I got attached. Sad to see it end. I liked the characters, I liked the backstories, I liked the concepts. Vinge did go a little easy on us in the end because if Tomas Nau's tyrrany held up, it would not have ended as well, but he got a little soft, and I actually appreciated that.
Yay.
Yay.
adventurous
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Complicated
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
adventurous
hopeful
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
N/A
This prequel to A Fire Upon the Deep describes the meeting of Pham Nuwen and a Qing Ho fleet with a fleet of the Emergents, both trying to exploit the civilization on Arachna, the single planet orbiting the OnOff star. The unexpected inhabitants are spiderlike and hibernate deep inside the earth when the star goes dark, but their technology is developing swiftly and the humans need it to return home.
Una gran precuela para [b:A Fire Upon the Deep|77711|A Fire Upon the Deep (Zones of Thought, #1)|Vernor Vinge|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1333915005l/77711._SY75_.jpg|1253374] que desarrolla la historia de uno de sus protagonistas, Pham Nuwen, resucitado en el primer libro para dar caza al antagonista y cuyo origen pretende contar este libro. A su figura añadimos un enfrentamiento entre dos facciones de la especie humana con filosofías opuestas involucradas en un primer contacto con una raza alienígena aracniforme que está a punto de superar el umbral tecnológico que les permita acceder al espacio.
Pero cuanto menos se diga del argumento mejor. Baste decir que es una novela imaginativa, muy bien escrita (aunque con algún problema de extensión en su último tercio) y que me reafirma en que Vinge es uno de los grande de la Ciencia Ficción (aunque no descubro nada con ello, es solo que a mí se me había pasado en su momento)
Pero cuanto menos se diga del argumento mejor. Baste decir que es una novela imaginativa, muy bien escrita (aunque con algún problema de extensión en su último tercio) y que me reafirma en que Vinge es uno de los grande de la Ciencia Ficción (aunque no descubro nada con ello, es solo que a mí se me había pasado en su momento)
Finished 'deepness in the sky' by Vernor Vinge.
5/5
This concludes my journey in 'The Zones of Thought', I have now read all three books.
(unless I read Joan D. Vinge's novel 'The Outcasts of Heaven Belt' or 'Babel' by Vernor Vinge.)
It was a rather long book and took longer to arrive at the peak action than any other in the series. It also had less enjoyable deviations than the others, but I also enjoy the doggos and the gossipers on the middle transcend net.
The characters are all really well portrayed and you do actually learn to like them and know all about them, like, not many books make me actually understand and care for this many characters.
Hell most books I couldn't name the characters, I literally finished hyperion 1-2 days ago and I only remember the consul, saia (the Hawaiian island girl?? I know I fucked it up), m letson?, the shrike doesn't fucking count.
I'm not saying hyperion characters were bad, I'm just saying that these characters really grew on you.
Vernor Vinge loves betrayels, secrets, manipulation, double agents, triple agents, twists and turns and plots on plots within plots. Okay maybe not that much but this book is classic Vinge in that way.
Suspense wise? A Fire Upon the deep is still miles ahead of this, that book had me literally frantically turning pages like a mad man at the end of the book to see what was happening.
Quick tier list
1, a fire upon the deep
2, children of the sky
3, a deepness in the sky
I feel bad about putting it at third. I really want to just put both of them at 2nd place.
Spoiler review
I'm going to really miss Pham, he actually feels so much more grounded than other MC heroes. He wants the focus so bad but gives it up etc. I suppose the ending of the book means he beat the emergents and headed into the core of the galaxy, this is where he was then rescued and brought into 'a fire upon the deep', I wish we knew what happened to him more. I wish we knew what happened to the spiders, I wish vernor Vinge had enough energy to write 10 more novels. It feels like a giant galaxy that could easily be expanded upon at every corner. Okay anyways, this book was certainly dark at some points, qiwis mom getting raped and murdered and her daughter reliving the experience of finding the video tapes over and over before being mindscrubbed was so quick in reference but it sticks with you so much. Pham nuwens back story and childhood, damn this book has sooo much content. My review is probably all over the place but there was a lot here.
I give up describing it. It was amazing.
5/5
This concludes my journey in 'The Zones of Thought', I have now read all three books.
(unless I read Joan D. Vinge's novel 'The Outcasts of Heaven Belt' or 'Babel' by Vernor Vinge.)
It was a rather long book and took longer to arrive at the peak action than any other in the series. It also had less enjoyable deviations than the others, but I also enjoy the doggos and the gossipers on the middle transcend net.
The characters are all really well portrayed and you do actually learn to like them and know all about them, like, not many books make me actually understand and care for this many characters.
Hell most books I couldn't name the characters, I literally finished hyperion 1-2 days ago and I only remember the consul, saia (the Hawaiian island girl?? I know I fucked it up), m letson?, the shrike doesn't fucking count.
I'm not saying hyperion characters were bad, I'm just saying that these characters really grew on you.
Vernor Vinge loves betrayels, secrets, manipulation, double agents, triple agents, twists and turns and plots on plots within plots. Okay maybe not that much but this book is classic Vinge in that way.
Suspense wise? A Fire Upon the deep is still miles ahead of this, that book had me literally frantically turning pages like a mad man at the end of the book to see what was happening.
Quick tier list
1, a fire upon the deep
2, children of the sky
3, a deepness in the sky
I feel bad about putting it at third. I really want to just put both of them at 2nd place.
Spoiler review
I'm going to really miss Pham, he actually feels so much more grounded than other MC heroes. He wants the focus so bad but gives it up etc. I suppose the ending of the book means he beat the emergents and headed into the core of the galaxy, this is where he was then rescued and brought into 'a fire upon the deep', I wish we knew what happened to him more. I wish we knew what happened to the spiders, I wish vernor Vinge had enough energy to write 10 more novels. It feels like a giant galaxy that could easily be expanded upon at every corner. Okay anyways, this book was certainly dark at some points, qiwis mom getting raped and murdered and her daughter reliving the experience of finding the video tapes over and over before being mindscrubbed was so quick in reference but it sticks with you so much. Pham nuwens back story and childhood, damn this book has sooo much content. My review is probably all over the place but there was a lot here.
I give up describing it. It was amazing.
Interstellar travel spanning centuries, plans and plots spanning decades and more, first contact, an alien civilization presented in both very relateable and very alien ways…all sorts of good stuff here. Technically in the same universe as Vinge’s _A Fire Upon the Deep_, but so removed in space and time as to be standalone, with only a few connections to the other. Really enjoyed how Vinge presented the Spiders, and the revelations towards the end that I didn’t guess at all. An excellent read.
Maybe not quite as fun as A Fire Upon the Deep, but a lot of that had to do with the format of the pages and the font. Another good exploration of other consciousnesses. The most interesting part, though, was the the way two civilizations met and had to try to understand one another.
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated