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booknerdkc's review against another edition
dark
emotional
informative
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
jwinchell's review against another edition
5.0
There is a lot of trauma in this book—physical and emotional violence, war and gruesome deaths. Jane is a senior in high school in 1999 and she has taken care of her little brother for the last 4 years since her mom up and left. Dad is a refugee from Vietnam and has never recovered from the trauma of his experience. Jane doesn’t like anything about being Vietnamese, and she’s trying to get up the gumption to tell her brother and dad that she’s going away to college. Alternating with this storyline is Jane’s telling or their father’s departure from Vietnam in 1976 and extreme experiences as a refugee. Memory is tricky here, and that would be a theme I’d have high school students pay attention to. 10th grade and up. Add this very important YA novel to the growing genre of Vietnamese perspectives from the Vietnam War.
readsrandiread's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Do you ever finish a book and then massively struggle with how to feel about it?? Seriously, I can’t even decide what to write here. Which may lead one to ask why I’m bothering, to which I have no answer. 🤷🏻♀️
Did I appreciate a look at how harrowing and nightmarish leaving Vietnam as a refugee was?
Yes, absolutely.
How about appreciating the look at Vietnamese families and culture?
Again, yes.
Can I accept that hurt people hurt people?
I don’t like it, but I understand that it happens.
Is violent child abuse something I can accept or explain away because of an unthinkable past or cultural differences?
No, absolutely no.
I don’t think this book is trying to justify child abuse as much as trying to offer a broader picture. But there were lines and scenes that felt a little too dismissive for me and are making wrapping my head around the book as a whole rough for me.
Do I recommend the book?
Yes, but go into knowing you will be sitting in an uncomfortable murky gray.
Did I appreciate a look at how harrowing and nightmarish leaving Vietnam as a refugee was?
Yes, absolutely.
How about appreciating the look at Vietnamese families and culture?
Again, yes.
Can I accept that hurt people hurt people?
I don’t like it, but I understand that it happens.
Is violent child abuse something I can accept or explain away because of an unthinkable past or cultural differences?
No, absolutely no.
I don’t think this book is trying to justify child abuse as much as trying to offer a broader picture. But there were lines and scenes that felt a little too dismissive for me and are making wrapping my head around the book as a whole rough for me.
Do I recommend the book?
Yes, but go into knowing you will be sitting in an uncomfortable murky gray.
stephanieridiculous's review
4.0
This was super griping/engaging and left me with a lot of conflicting emotions. I think that's part of the point, but I'm having a hard time unpacking it. Here are some thoughts in list form.
-Just, so many trigger warnings. I was pretty quickly surprised that this is considered YA and it's not something I would really recommend to most teenagers I know. TW for child abuse, neglect, abandonment, sexual assault, war, violence, domestic abuse, animal abuse, and more.
-I love an unreliable narrator!
-This entire book boils down to Jane trying to understand her father, their family, and their culture. There's a lot of interesting stuff as a result of that; reconnecting with her culture and changing her opinions on other immigrants pretty significantly, coming into her own regarding decisions about her future and why she's making them, and some direct acknowledgement regarding breaking the cycles of abuse & struggling with the impact her abuse has had on her own processing of anger/emotions. Those were all really really great.
-In the process of the above, though, Jane is also coming to terms with why her father is so abusive, and this is where the book becomes complicated for me. It should be complicated, granted, as generational trauma is a very complicated thing. It's not comfortable or easy or simple to live in a home that contains deep and complex trauma, or to be part of a wider culture and community that contains deep and complex trauma. What I did like about this exploration was how genuine and authentic it felt, but this is also the genesis of a lot of my concerns, too.
In many ways Jane's telling of her father's story is an effort to normalize his abuse, and the goal is pretty clearly to explain to her brother why their dad beats them. Understanding dad's trauma is certainly a worthwhile and important undertaking (although I am conflicted about children taking that on), but the impact, I think, is essentially normalizing and accepting that abusive behavior from him & their community at large. I have deep concerns about a young person (or anyone, really) reading this and concluding their own abuse is something they shouldn't take to anyone because of how abuse is handled in this story. It's definitely not the authors job to teach their readers on how to navigate their own personal experiences; the authors job is to tell the story they're trying to convey and I think that is done well here. However, it's also laid out pretty explicitly that you shouldn't meddle in another families business.
Specifically, (spoilers) Jane's friend Jackie tells her mom about how Jane is being abused at home. We learn that Jackie's mom chews her out for tattling on Jane, and lectures her about how spoiled she is, how she doesn't understand, how it's none of her business, etc. etc. This is in line with the wider narrative about trauma being complex, but is also furthering this notion that what Jane and Paul are going through is acceptable (even if not ideal.) The conversation between Jane and Jackie about this in particular drives home that, essentially, this is an issue of culture and Jackie is too Americanized and doesn't understand & has no right to be upset/worried/concerned for her friend, or want better for her. While Jane's attitude about this is entirely in line with the way abuse victims often rationalize their experience, it isn't fully challenged in the narrative and as a result I think if you are navigating similar waters and are unsure what to believe, this book will reinforce ideas like "if you didn't mess up you wouldn't get beat" and "I deserve this" and "this is my fault" and generally that abusing children is mostly a matter of cultural differences. And to be clear, in case you haven't read this yet, we're not talking about differing opinions of what routine discipline looks like. We're talking about full on violent and vicious beatings that leave marks for weeks, on children.
Jane does a lot of grappling re: why dad is this way, and how it isn't excusable, but in the end she does excuse him. She accepts it, and is prepping Paul to do the same by explaining their dad's story so he will understand why their dad treats them the way he does. The narration goes to great lengths to establish that dad is both bad and good, and you can't separate that out - and in many ways tries to drive home that you have to accept both. The book is, essentially, about Jane conditioning Paul to navigate dads abuse the way she did - bearing down under it, doing better to avoid provoking him, and having compassion for dad because of what he has endured. Dad deserves compassion! And maybe it's unfair to put the weight of dispelling all of this on Jane, but I wish she had talked with Paul about how dad's abuse isn't indicative of their worth - that it's a reflection of their dad, not of them. That's an unreasonable request, as I don't think Jane believes that and it takes a long time to abuse victims to unpack that; I just wish someone had really championed that message and planted that seed in a way that was cultivated instead of shot down like Jackie's concerns were.
I do maintain that it isn't the authors job to explain to people the nuances of reality, but I am longing for some kind of acknowledgement that if you are being abused like Jane is, you should - or can - seek help. A list of resources in the back, perhaps. I know that desire from me is rooted in western ideals of family dynamics and the privilege that if I needed to call the authorities I likely wouldn't come to harm from those who showed up - and that Jane's father does not share that privilege. I know that my grappling with this issue stems from a different lived experience with a different context, and that those things really do matter here & influence the way I receive this book. That the book has stirred me to such conflicted emotions is a indication of story told well, no doubt. I am unsure I'll be recommending this to anyone, though, or at least I will be very intentional in how I recommend it. This is not a book for the faint of heart.
-Just, so many trigger warnings. I was pretty quickly surprised that this is considered YA and it's not something I would really recommend to most teenagers I know. TW for child abuse, neglect, abandonment, sexual assault, war, violence, domestic abuse, animal abuse, and more.
-I love an unreliable narrator!
-This entire book boils down to Jane trying to understand her father, their family, and their culture. There's a lot of interesting stuff as a result of that; reconnecting with her culture and changing her opinions on other immigrants pretty significantly, coming into her own regarding decisions about her future and why she's making them, and some direct acknowledgement regarding breaking the cycles of abuse & struggling with the impact her abuse has had on her own processing of anger/emotions. Those were all really really great.
-In the process of the above, though, Jane is also coming to terms with why her father is so abusive, and this is where the book becomes complicated for me. It should be complicated, granted, as generational trauma is a very complicated thing. It's not comfortable or easy or simple to live in a home that contains deep and complex trauma, or to be part of a wider culture and community that contains deep and complex trauma. What I did like about this exploration was how genuine and authentic it felt, but this is also the genesis of a lot of my concerns, too.
In many ways Jane's telling of her father's story is an effort to normalize his abuse, and the goal is pretty clearly to explain to her brother why their dad beats them. Understanding dad's trauma is certainly a worthwhile and important undertaking (although I am conflicted about children taking that on), but the impact, I think, is essentially normalizing and accepting that abusive behavior from him & their community at large. I have deep concerns about a young person (or anyone, really) reading this and concluding their own abuse is something they shouldn't take to anyone because of how abuse is handled in this story. It's definitely not the authors job to teach their readers on how to navigate their own personal experiences; the authors job is to tell the story they're trying to convey and I think that is done well here. However, it's also laid out pretty explicitly that you shouldn't meddle in another families business.
Specifically, (spoilers) Jane's friend Jackie tells her mom about how Jane is being abused at home. We learn that Jackie's mom chews her out for tattling on Jane, and lectures her about how spoiled she is, how she doesn't understand, how it's none of her business, etc. etc. This is in line with the wider narrative about trauma being complex, but is also furthering this notion that what Jane and Paul are going through is acceptable (even if not ideal.) The conversation between Jane and Jackie about this in particular drives home that, essentially, this is an issue of culture and Jackie is too Americanized and doesn't understand & has no right to be upset/worried/concerned for her friend, or want better for her. While Jane's attitude about this is entirely in line with the way abuse victims often rationalize their experience, it isn't fully challenged in the narrative and as a result I think if you are navigating similar waters and are unsure what to believe, this book will reinforce ideas like "if you didn't mess up you wouldn't get beat" and "I deserve this" and "this is my fault" and generally that abusing children is mostly a matter of cultural differences. And to be clear, in case you haven't read this yet, we're not talking about differing opinions of what routine discipline looks like. We're talking about full on violent and vicious beatings that leave marks for weeks, on children.
Jane does a lot of grappling re: why dad is this way, and how it isn't excusable, but in the end she does excuse him. She accepts it, and is prepping Paul to do the same by explaining their dad's story so he will understand why their dad treats them the way he does. The narration goes to great lengths to establish that dad is both bad and good, and you can't separate that out - and in many ways tries to drive home that you have to accept both. The book is, essentially, about Jane conditioning Paul to navigate dads abuse the way she did - bearing down under it, doing better to avoid provoking him, and having compassion for dad because of what he has endured. Dad deserves compassion! And maybe it's unfair to put the weight of dispelling all of this on Jane, but I wish she had talked with Paul about how dad's abuse isn't indicative of their worth - that it's a reflection of their dad, not of them. That's an unreasonable request, as I don't think Jane believes that and it takes a long time to abuse victims to unpack that; I just wish someone had really championed that message and planted that seed in a way that was cultivated instead of shot down like Jackie's concerns were.
I do maintain that it isn't the authors job to explain to people the nuances of reality, but I am longing for some kind of acknowledgement that if you are being abused like Jane is, you should - or can - seek help. A list of resources in the back, perhaps. I know that desire from me is rooted in western ideals of family dynamics and the privilege that if I needed to call the authorities I likely wouldn't come to harm from those who showed up - and that Jane's father does not share that privilege. I know that my grappling with this issue stems from a different lived experience with a different context, and that those things really do matter here & influence the way I receive this book. That the book has stirred me to such conflicted emotions is a indication of story told well, no doubt. I am unsure I'll be recommending this to anyone, though, or at least I will be very intentional in how I recommend it. This is not a book for the faint of heart.
rudy99's review
emotional
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
A challenging read, though I am glad to have read it. This is a book of juxtapositions — of maturity and helplessness, love and hate, openness and reservedness. I wish there was a bit more about her time in Vietnam
smalltownbookmom's review against another edition
5.0
4.5 rounded up!
Wow this YA debut was such an emotionally heavy coming of age story featuring a Vietnamese American teen girl and her immigrant father's journey to America.
Told from alternating POVs and timelines, we get to know Jane as she tries to prepare for college, knowing she'll be leaving her little brother behind with their emotionally and physically abusive, alcoholic father.
Delving into anti-Asian racism in America, complex immigrant family dynamics and the challenges of trying to live your own life while also feeling guilty about the well-being of other family members. This was such a well-written, moving story and excellent on audio performed by Quyen Ngo (a new to me narrator).
Many thanks to @prhaudio for a complimentary ALC in exchange for my honest review! I will eagerly be looking forward to the sequel featuring Jane's brother Paul and his relationship with the mother who abandoned them. Perfect for fans of authors like Kelly Yang or Mark H K Choi.
Wow this YA debut was such an emotionally heavy coming of age story featuring a Vietnamese American teen girl and her immigrant father's journey to America.
Told from alternating POVs and timelines, we get to know Jane as she tries to prepare for college, knowing she'll be leaving her little brother behind with their emotionally and physically abusive, alcoholic father.
Delving into anti-Asian racism in America, complex immigrant family dynamics and the challenges of trying to live your own life while also feeling guilty about the well-being of other family members. This was such a well-written, moving story and excellent on audio performed by Quyen Ngo (a new to me narrator).
Many thanks to @prhaudio for a complimentary ALC in exchange for my honest review! I will eagerly be looking forward to the sequel featuring Jane's brother Paul and his relationship with the mother who abandoned them. Perfect for fans of authors like Kelly Yang or Mark H K Choi.
emilybredberg's review
emotional
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
kpetz1's review
adventurous
challenging
emotional
funny
hopeful
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
mythiclibearian's review
challenging
emotional
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0