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King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine
Douglas Gillette, Robert L. Moore
3.81 AVERAGE
96 reviews for:
King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine
Douglas Gillette, Robert L. Moore
3.81 AVERAGE
I find this book VERY interesting. I think its pretty dated which makes sense considering it was written in the 80’s - obviously for the heteronormative man. This comment is not meant to be controversial, I truly think the book can be a useful tool to better yourself as a HUMAN. Specifically by shedding light on that “shadow form” of yourself - which clearly states was caused by patriarchal teachings.
That’s where this really intrigues me. Moore & Gillette discuss the 4 archetypes of males. However, males and females struggle with these alike. We have almost all come to the same idea that we, men and women, are complete separate entities regarding our humanity. This line of thinking is a product of the patriarchy according to the phycologists. The “shadow forms” of each archetype are in us all BECAUSE of this, are they not? So why are they targeting the heteronormative man?
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this take on “toxic masculinity”. I think it is a great knowledge for conversation and understanding. If it’s a “how to become a mature masculine” OR a “how to to become a better HUMAN” by curing this toxicity with recognition of the patriarchal standards we’ve been taught, I’d say the latter.
That’s where this really intrigues me. Moore & Gillette discuss the 4 archetypes of males. However, males and females struggle with these alike. We have almost all come to the same idea that we, men and women, are complete separate entities regarding our humanity. This line of thinking is a product of the patriarchy according to the phycologists. The “shadow forms” of each archetype are in us all BECAUSE of this, are they not? So why are they targeting the heteronormative man?
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this take on “toxic masculinity”. I think it is a great knowledge for conversation and understanding. If it’s a “how to become a mature masculine” OR a “how to to become a better HUMAN” by curing this toxicity with recognition of the patriarchal standards we’ve been taught, I’d say the latter.
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This is one of the few books that I will certainly come back to and read again, maybe even multiple times. I found the book very empowering especially given the state of society today.
a short and descriptive look into the 4 most common and enduring masculine archetypes; what they look like in their immature forms and also their active and passive expressions.
The true power in this book is that it shows masculinity in narrative representation, it doesn't demonize men or tell them what to do. By understanding that these archetypes are in all of us it invites us to be better, more mature versions of ourselves.
This quote at the end of the book resonated deeply with me, as it is even more of a reality in 2019 than it was in 1991.
"In this book, we have been concerned about helping men take responsibility for the destructiveness of immature forms of masculinity. At the same time, it is clear that the world is overpopulated with not only immature men but also tyrannical and abusive little girls pretending to be women. It is time for men -particularly men of western civilization- to stop accepting blame for everything that is wrong in the world. There has been a veritable blitzkrieg on the male gender, what amounts to an outright demonization of men and a slander against masculinity. But women are no more inherently responsible or mature than men are....Men should never feel apologetic about their gender, as gender. They should be concerned with maturation and the stewardship of that gender and the larger world. The enemy for both sexes is not the other sex but the infantile grandiosity and the splitting of the self that results from it."
a short and descriptive look into the 4 most common and enduring masculine archetypes; what they look like in their immature forms and also their active and passive expressions.
The true power in this book is that it shows masculinity in narrative representation, it doesn't demonize men or tell them what to do. By understanding that these archetypes are in all of us it invites us to be better, more mature versions of ourselves.
This quote at the end of the book resonated deeply with me, as it is even more of a reality in 2019 than it was in 1991.
"In this book, we have been concerned about helping men take responsibility for the destructiveness of immature forms of masculinity. At the same time, it is clear that the world is overpopulated with not only immature men but also tyrannical and abusive little girls pretending to be women. It is time for men -particularly men of western civilization- to stop accepting blame for everything that is wrong in the world. There has been a veritable blitzkrieg on the male gender, what amounts to an outright demonization of men and a slander against masculinity. But women are no more inherently responsible or mature than men are....Men should never feel apologetic about their gender, as gender. They should be concerned with maturation and the stewardship of that gender and the larger world. The enemy for both sexes is not the other sex but the infantile grandiosity and the splitting of the self that results from it."
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I really like the idea of archetypes... The information in this book was interesting and I can see how it applies to many of the men in my life. I wish there was a book like this for women!
More accurately. 4* for the depth psychology archetypes, which are a useful addition to my meditation "arsenal" and provide a lot of food for thought. 1* for the book they're embedded in, which really belongs in the 1950s. Or perhaps the Rome of Constantine. The authors' idea of a "mature" man ultimately reads like a 1950s "manly man". Gender is essential and binary. Sexuality is firmly heterosexual. A real man obviously supports his wife on her return to a "satisfying career". It's Jung via St Paul with side-orders of Islamophobia (Islam the warrior religion? Check. Black-eyed hour is in paradise? Check), Orientalism (seriously, the "mystical, sensuous East is in full force here) and anti-feminism. If someone, somewhere, has developed the underlying concepts in a way that doesn't read like an "acceptable" face of the men's rights, movement, however, I'd be interested in reading it.
Even though it lacked real-life case studies to substantiate its claims, it was still worth reading.
I believe I have to read Jung's work more, so
I can understand these archetypes a lot better.
I believe I have to read Jung's work more, so
I can understand these archetypes a lot better.
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