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That's What She Said: What Men and Women Need to Know about Working Together
Joanne Lipman
45 reviews for:
That's What She Said: What Men and Women Need to Know about Working Together
Joanne Lipman
Lipman has helped me put my working life in context. After taking a few years to stay home with my child while earning a graduate degree, I was confident in my ability to return to the workforce. I soon discovered the hurdles and inflicted a lot of self-blame. Finding that men are promoted on potential and women are promoted based on past performance clicked for me. In my experience, the same is true in the hiring process if the interviewer/hiring manager is male. Unfortunately, Lipman is right in that it will take men becoming aware and advocating for women in order for the status quo to move in a more fair direction.
This feminist work is very gentle towards men and is optimal for gifting to men with sensitive feelings about being called out for their sexist behavior.
In all seriousness, this book is statistics heavy while also being very accessible, and I recommend it to anyone who hasn't read much feminist theory or isn't convinced that sexism still exists, or anyone who would like statistics to back up what they already know. It focuses heavily on bringing men into the discussion and and fight for equality, which of course includes being somewhat gentle and focusing on unconscious bias rather than purposeful degradation, but in turn it brings a number of strategies to the table that have started to be used to work towards equality. These strategies are discussed and it is shown how well they are working, while suggesting that the useful ones get used by more men in the wider world, as most of the strategies are only in place now in certain companies, colleges, or countries (Iceland is discussed in detail).
I found the statistics and references to numerous scientific studies as well as data collected from various companies on their employees to be very helpful. The flow from what topic to another was also very smooth. A few times the author repeated herself a few chapters apart, going back and re-proving a point she had already made in an aside, but it wasn't too irritating and she got back to her new point fairly quickly.
In all seriousness, this book is statistics heavy while also being very accessible, and I recommend it to anyone who hasn't read much feminist theory or isn't convinced that sexism still exists, or anyone who would like statistics to back up what they already know. It focuses heavily on bringing men into the discussion and and fight for equality, which of course includes being somewhat gentle and focusing on unconscious bias rather than purposeful degradation, but in turn it brings a number of strategies to the table that have started to be used to work towards equality. These strategies are discussed and it is shown how well they are working, while suggesting that the useful ones get used by more men in the wider world, as most of the strategies are only in place now in certain companies, colleges, or countries (Iceland is discussed in detail).
I found the statistics and references to numerous scientific studies as well as data collected from various companies on their employees to be very helpful. The flow from what topic to another was also very smooth. A few times the author repeated herself a few chapters apart, going back and re-proving a point she had already made in an aside, but it wasn't too irritating and she got back to her new point fairly quickly.
3.5
This is a good book for anyone in general (but specifically to men) who want to know how gender bias plays out at a workplace. Each chapter of the book deals with a specific issue ranging from pay raise to unconscious bias and the author tries to illustrate the problem with good examples which are backed up with excellent statistics and data. The problems can be attributed to any male-centric workforce in general (definitely relevant to the tech industry which I belong to).
I could relate with this book a lot and though I have faced some situations mentioned in the book, I never attributed them to unconscious gender bias. So, yes, this book acts as a good mirror which helps you identify some of the problems with gender equality.
However, it doesn't offer any ready-made solutions to the problems discussed in each chapter. The author sometimes has some suggestions but most of the time it is just pointing out at the problem. Though this can be a con, it might be too harsh for us to expect a simple "one formula fits all" solution from the author for such complex problems.
Therefore, I strongly recommend to read this book in a book-club setting. That gives you an opportunity to hear others opinion/take on the problems being discussed and gives everyone a better insight while trying to devise a solution. Also, this book is very specific to gender issues related to workplace. Though some lessons can drawn which can be applicable to your personal life, it mainly focuses on the workplace.
The book has a potential to bring out lot of good discussion and action items to actually fix some of these problems at workplace. Men, please read this book along with your female colleagues.
This is a good book for anyone in general (but specifically to men) who want to know how gender bias plays out at a workplace. Each chapter of the book deals with a specific issue ranging from pay raise to unconscious bias and the author tries to illustrate the problem with good examples which are backed up with excellent statistics and data. The problems can be attributed to any male-centric workforce in general (definitely relevant to the tech industry which I belong to).
I could relate with this book a lot and though I have faced some situations mentioned in the book, I never attributed them to unconscious gender bias. So, yes, this book acts as a good mirror which helps you identify some of the problems with gender equality.
However, it doesn't offer any ready-made solutions to the problems discussed in each chapter. The author sometimes has some suggestions but most of the time it is just pointing out at the problem. Though this can be a con, it might be too harsh for us to expect a simple "one formula fits all" solution from the author for such complex problems.
Therefore, I strongly recommend to read this book in a book-club setting. That gives you an opportunity to hear others opinion/take on the problems being discussed and gives everyone a better insight while trying to devise a solution. Also, this book is very specific to gender issues related to workplace. Though some lessons can drawn which can be applicable to your personal life, it mainly focuses on the workplace.
The book has a potential to bring out lot of good discussion and action items to actually fix some of these problems at workplace. Men, please read this book along with your female colleagues.
This was fabulous. I feel VERY STRONGLY that the name of this book is bullshit. There is nothing about this book that matches the "and Women Need to Tell Them" part of the subtitle. This book is, point blank, about MEN being better. About men doing better. About men learning what the facts of the matter are, and making different choices. (It's also about women not buying into sexist crap, but there is LITERALLY nothing in here about women having to tell men what to do. It's almost diametrically opposed to that, actually.)
Anyway, good read. I hope my boss will read it.
Anyway, good read. I hope my boss will read it.