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Frat Girl by Kiley Roache

letsbebookfriends's review

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3.0

* 3.5 stars *

kaikai1618's review against another edition

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2.0

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PROS

I enjoyed reading this book. Its refreshing to have a novel filled with wise words within feminism and there were frequent areas of the texts I'd highlight and agree with. I've never read a fictional book that has so many educational quotes. This was a major turn on for me.

I could tell from the beginning that the main character was very flawed and had an "I'm not like other girls attitude". Some of Cassie's logic with her judgement of others is something I have seen in myself. It was nice to be reminded of that. Cassie is clearly judgmental towards different kinds of people based on organizations they are in or certain activities they take part in. It's clear that she generalizes them and has to learn that they're just people and there's no point in stereotyping. Characters like Alex and Jackie were nice buffers to Cassie's prejudice since they wouldn't hesitate to reel her back in (Just not for the problem as a whole. Only small things).

I actually did find myself fairly invested in the people of the frat. There's this sense of kinship from them. A bunch of side characters such as Duncan, Bambi, and Peter appear as genuine and interesting people. The dialogue and interactions they have with Cassie are pretty light hearted. These parts of the story are not hard to get through and I found myself flying through each chapter.

Now onto Cassie and Jordan's relationship. I like how it was built up and didn't seem rushed (besides when she first meats him and thinks he's just sooooo gorgeous. She met him for about two seconds before he became the most obvious love interest). After being in the Frat for so long, the relationship may have felt better when foiled with the constant locker room talk. In comparison, Jordan could just be decent and consensual and he would look like a 10/10. I do have to say though that it was cute when they texted over break all day about a show. This made it a lot more believable that they had some kind of connection and the romantic tension kept building. Still, I would like to have seen more dialogue from them to see how they can hold up a conversation. At least they didn't say they loved each other or have any insta-love. Their relationship managed to be apparent without overshadowing the main concept of the book.


CONS

That being said, I did feel as though there were many loose ends and that the ending was rushed. If your character is going to be flawed then she needs to be redeemed for what she did before. Cassie would constantly claim she was a feminist while looking down upon women in sororities who seemed stereotypical. She could go on rants with valid points on the mistreatment of women yet she was quick to judge someone without knowing how they grew up or their capacity for change. The only time Cassie really faces her internalized misogyny is when she talks to women in a sorority about how she thinks they're just there to tear each other down, sleep with men, and party. She practically says they're all vapid. They then tell her about how they are built on sisterhood and empowering one another etc, adding on that if they do things seen as stereotypically girly they do it because they want to. Another girl then addresses how Cassie's idea of feminism is not one that acknowledges Black people and lacks intersectionality. Cassie feels bad and writes and entry in her project about it before the topic is never seen again. This rushed paragraph of dialogue by these sorority girls feels like it was just tossed in. This topic is extremely important and should be addressed further. Cassie's never apologizes for how she's treated them and doesn't talk with anyone about what it's like to be a person of color and a women. It seems like she all the sudden has this revaluation but it isn't really put to the test. We don't see her change much in that regard when she NEEDS to see the error of her ways in a more effective way. She needs to redeem what she's been saying for 2/3rds of the book. Even when this information is given, it's rushed into this one scene. The info-dump, while nice, is unusual for a random bathroom conversation that doesn't even bring about much merit.

I think a better approach to this situation would be to have Jackie or Alex have a serious conversation with Cassie on this topic. It's clear that both of them understand that not liking frats in general does not mean you have to hate everyone in a frat or that all of them are horrible. They also understand that women should uplift other women no matter what they like or where they go. I find it strange that they never sat down with her to ask why she thinks like this. They seem like characters who would not have a problem doing so.

Now for the ending. The whole plot of this is that Cassie is infiltrating the frat to report on their behavior and that when the news comes out she will be hated by all her frat brothers. Yet when this happens, it's very brief. It lasts about two chapters (short ones) and then it's resolved with another article??? This was messy and happened 95% into the book.

What bothered me was how Cassie doesn't really do anything. She calls the people publishing her research entries and asks to change them, stating her realization that fraternities aren't the problem but the nature of society as a whole. I actually wanted her to find that. Though the nature of many frats feeds into a problem, they not only have the ability to change, but the people there are conditioned by society to be overly masculine and use culturally misogynistic language. Not that this is an excuse, but I saw the need to keep the brotherhood. It's complex and that's the point. She rants about this on the phone to an employee, but we didn't get that many snippets of her thoughts on this matter. Before, we can see her mind is changing, but we never see her thought process until now. The whole phone call is a cop out. What this book lacks is ANY sense of nuance. There are characters that will have long paragraphs of dialogue to explain something to you just for the sake of getting a point across quickly. At one point, Jordan, Cassie, Sai, and Duncan are all playing a game when Jordan all of the sudden starts telling his life story. He talks all about his competitiveness and childhood in detail. It's honestly the only time we get to see more about his character-- he needs to word-vomit it out. In fact, we never get any sense of what life is like for any of the side characters besides one sentence about Alex and that part with Jordan. A good way to humanize more of the frat brothers would be to learn about how they were raised and got to the school.

Also, after Cassie's entries are published and she is finally forgiven etc etc, we never see what she does with her new revelation. So she now believes frats aren't so bad, she has fun, she has a boyfriend and cool friends that does hate her. Now what? How will she go on the mend things and how does this study make her change her attitude towards other women. How will she advocate to change the frats? WE DON'T KNOW.

So though I did really like reading this book in the moment and went through it quickly, it's hard to overlook the gaping holes within the ending. It's frustrating because there was so much potential for this book. It was an out of the box idea with average writing. Still, think it was educational for me and had some great points. There are areas of sex positivity for women, the sex ed scene, ideas on consent, etc. Though, a huge problem that separates women is the belief that there is a certain way to be a woman and that being too "quirky" or too "Barbie" means you are lesser in some way. I wanted this book to have more commentary and growth when it comes to women hating on other women. Sadly, this was never developed.

kendalliskiwii's review

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5.0

subversive, immersive (yayyy rhyming), and easy to understand!! i thought it gave a lot of different perspectives and was pretty educational!! i also liked the message of how people who are misogynistic because they are a byproduct of their environment can learn for the better. handled everything with nuance and care :)

fatimareadsbooks's review

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4.0

I’ve been looking for a good college-set YA for ages, so I reallyy enjoyed this! It was very political though, which I usually don’t mind; however in this case, I felt like having both the fluff and politics in the book was not a good idea. Sometimes it felt like I was reading a fluffy romance YA and other times I was being hit with looong bits of political dialogue or rumination that seemed to come straight out of a textbook. It was quite preachy and not at all subtle, to be honest. However, I do think that a lot of the points the book talked about relating to feminism were soo valid and important. I especially loved the scene where the MC gets called out in the bathroom by another sorority girl about her white feminism. And I loved how that caused the MC to reflect on her stereotyping the sorority girls and hating on them so much.

Overall, ‘twas a delightful read - and I’m looking forward to reading more college-set YA!

kendalliskiwi's review

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5.0

subversive, immersive (yayyy rhyming), and easy to understand!! i thought it gave a lot of different perspectives and was pretty educational!! i also liked the message of how people who are misogynistic because they are a byproduct of their environment can learn for the better. handled everything with nuance and care :)

evief_'s review

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2.0

1.5 but i don't wanna be mean & round down. this was just. bad.

rogoreads's review

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2.0

If anything, this book reminded me of the rough parts of actually being 18-21 years old. I've been feeling nostalgic lately, so I appreciate that--there are some parts of college I really don't miss.

As far as content? Good (if far-fetched) premise with a half-baked and ultimately unsatisfying execution. The romance element really didn't work for me. The feminism stuff was interesting but fell into a lot of traps that other reviewers have pointed out very well.

It was written by a undergrad while she was still at school, which is impressive but also explains a lot.

maddie_lewis28's review

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5.0

I don’t feel like making this long but I really enjoyed this book! I liked how this was a fun read but also had some more serious moments and really talked about the troubles of feminism and how certain things may not be perceived the way you want them too and other stuff that I’m not smart enough to form words for right now lol. From the start I knew that the frat was going to find out about the articles and stuff (the project) and was terrified for this moment. Then 30 pages before the end I saw it coming and almost didn’t finish because I didn’t know how they could forgive her in 30 pages but they somehow did (I think Jordan forgave her too easily though). Jordan, Duncan, Peter, Marco, Bambi, Jackie, Alex, and Cassie are all amazing and Peter was the best for helping her out and saying he always voted for her. Also I said this in my updates BUT THE CHAPTER WHERE SHE TEACHES THEN SEX ED!!!!!! PRICELESS!! I loved that. Ok that’s all for now :)

Also I want to thank my friend for recommending this book to me and I’m glad she did :)

ennitsud's review against another edition

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4.0

this was a super cute story. it is a good mix of college life, stressing over making it big, making friends, getting some romance, and trying to stay true to your purpose. the premise of this really captured me cause i've kind of wanted to experience what Greek life is like–but as i really suck at social interactions, hate parties, and do not have money to spare for a frat or sorority, i've pretty much just learned my greek life info from secondhand sources.

but this story seems to coincide with those sources. there's misogyny, dirty jokes, crazy parties–but that's not all bad. like, yes, misogyny is bad! very!!!! but i get the jokes. my friends and i say it ironically, tbh, but the boys have shown growth. aside from those, there are specific scenes i wish i got more of–specifically, her teaching them about feminism and stuff. like that one scene (you'll know if you've read it) was hilarious. the boys learned things and cassie taught them things. it was cute! i expected more of those, but it felt more like observations and her agonizing over her guilt, trying to see if jordan liked her, and her paper.

which are all valid things to focus on, but they made the other precious things fall a bit more flat. there could have been more awareness. getting to read her entries were great and stuff. seeing her learn that her brand of feminism was old because it was a brand of white feminism. and then slowly adjusting to it. but those moments felt unnatural. while its hinted that it's reconciled, there's not actual show of it, at least not completely. and then her issues with jordan, the insecurities–they felt real but it didn't seem as big a deal as it seemed at the end of it. like whoa, these concerns came out of nowhere bc they were rarely mulled over.

i'm not explaining this well. but this was a good book and the feminist education it tries for hits most of the way and the romance is believable. there were cute friendships between her and duncan, her and bambi, her and peter. i loved the brotherhood scenes and the cute moments between her and jordan. i liked that article at the end. it was sweet.

overall, really cute book!

girlinthepages's review

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4.0

There's no denying that Frat Girl is an addictive read. A girl rushes a fraternity at an elite university in order to unearth their secrets? I couldn't hit "request" on NetGalley fast enough. As I predicted, Frat Girl left me reeling in many different ways, both positively and negatively, but I can't deny that Kiley Roache's writing style and ideas are right up my alley as an reader who puts the "adult" in "young adult."

First and foremost, I have to give this book major kudos for being set in college and COMMITTING to the setting. Often times college set YA books (of which there are few) often still have a high school vibe to them, but this really felt like a college setting- from the poor partying decisions and rowdy social life juxtaposed with though provoking academic conversations. It really captures that unique to college feeling of being simultaneously confident in your newfound adulthood and completely unsure of what to do with it. It was also set in the silicon valley (and very clearly based on Stanford University) and I loved the Northern California setting.

Where I struggle with Frat Girl is my mixed feelings of the portrayal of Greek life in college and the role it plays. As a former Greek myself, I know that many of the stereotypes can both be true and untrue, and are really dictated by which university, house, chapter, etc. you encounter. In the novel, pretty much every house (both fraternity and sorority) is portrayed as a party house. While the protagonist eventually learns over the course of the novel that students who participate in Greek life are more complex and human than she thought, I disliked that there wasn't more discussion surrounding houses that weren't on the verge of probation. Sure, most schools have at least one party heavy organization, but many houses are known for being academically inclined, or athletic, or even gentlemen. Same with sororities- not all are the frat obsessed partiers that many in this novel were painted to be. Some variety would have been nice in the portrayal of what Greek life is. I was also surprised that the book normalized hazing and it was never really addressed as problematic. I'm not naive- I know it happens- but I also know some schools and chapters have very rigid anti-hazing policies and stick to them. I suppose at the end of the day while the extreme partying of the houses in the story served a purpose for the plot, I felt like it gave a very one dimensional portrayal of Greek life.

The problematic Greek life in the story was often counteracted by protagonist Cassie's interest in feminism and gender studies, and while it felt a little heavy handed at times, I liked the awareness it created and how there were times in the story where even the protagonist would be called out for her biases despite how pro-feminism she was, even to the point where the girls who were in the sororities she judged so harshly confronted her (she was saying a lot of judgemental, toxic stuff about many of the sorority women on campus for a self proclaimed feminist). There was a lot of debate among the characters about the impact that Cassie's project was making- was it a great step in exposing sexism, or was it silly and a waste of resources when there are much worse crimes against women being committed around the world than a fraternity being disrespectful? In true college fashion, it causes its readers to think critically and doesn't take a stance on this issue one way or another really, which is what a good academic discussion does- encourages free thought and open discussion.

Though the story focuses heavily on Cassie's undercover project in the fraternity house, it also has a romance element to the plot that I actually enjoyed. It's fun in that it's illicit, but it also just felt like a very sincere courtship for early college- you have so much more agency and autonomy and it's not all holding hands in the hallway and locker kisses, but it's also full of the uncertainties of navigating a relationship where you have so much more power and free will. I really enjoyed the whole courtship and could definitely see the love interest being someone I would have liked in college, and therefore could find myself easily rooting for the relationship. However, there were times where the characters would go off on these weird existential tangents about love (or anxiety or depression) that didn't felt like they fit with the tone of the rest of the book, which was a bit more lighthearted.

At the end of the day Frat Girl is a read that's always going to stand out in my mind because it's not afraid to push the limits in the YA genre, being a true portrayal of college in all aspects from the romance to the partying to the academic discussion. While I did have some problems with the Greek life element, I found it hard to put down and a lot of the scenes hilarious yet relevant (like when Cassie teaches a sex-ed class to the guys in her chapter and debunks a lot of boy myths about female anatomy). However I ultimately wish there had been more closure at the end of the book, or more of a resolution as a result of Cassie's project- I felt like the guys didn't really change and become more open-minded so much as they learned to accept Cassie as an individual.

Overall: Frat Girl is a truly authentic college-feeling YA novel, which I'm always thrilled to see more of. While I had mixed feelings on its portrayal of Greek life, I loved the feminist themes and academic discussions in the book. If you're looking to read more YA set in college and want something fast paced and interesting, Frat Girl is definitely a book for you- just make sure you still keep an open mind about Greek life after reading it.