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Let's Talk About Love by Claire Kann

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matheo's review against another edition

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funny lighthearted

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? No
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.5

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emotional lighthearted reflective medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.25

I enjoyed this book. Alice is a Black ace girl in college trying to figure out what she wants to do with her life. I really enjoyed this book being set in college because I feel like a lot of ace/aro representation takes place in high school. Her relationship with Takumi is wholesome and I like how they both help each other. I like how the story also prioritized Alice's relationship with her friends. Often times I feel like stories downplay the importance of platonic relationships. Overall Claire Kann does a great job writing believable relationships in my opinion.

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challenging emotional funny hopeful inspiring reflective medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

This book was so hard for me because much like the main character Alice I am Black and asexual. The stuff that Alice went through is very similar to my everyday life. But the characters were so adorable and loveable. And everytime Alice and her love interest Takumi interacted it made me squee. This coming of age story is something I needed when I was 18.

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1.0

Probably up there for one of my most surprising ratings. There aren’t a lot of books with ace representation which is why I power-read through this so that I could experience the whole thing, but it just made me feel worse. So like I generally do, the rating is more about how I felt about it and how much I liked it at the time I read it. It could have been my depression/anxiety that made it worse, but I also feel like the book actually exacerbated it. (Maybe they both played off each other.)

Alice has a very close, soulmate described relationship with her best friend, Feenie. Feenie’s been dating Ryan since high school and Alice is also very close with him and they have family nights, spending time together and redefining what kind of love is in an amatonormative society. But then after planning to move in together when they go away to college, Feenie decides to move in with Ryan instead. A couple of years (1 year?) later they’re engaged and Alice is privately grieving how things might change when they get married, but she thinks it’s at least a couple of years away… and then she finds out it’s actually 6 months and Feenie just hadn’t told her. This seems like a very important thing to show in books, because it isn’t talked about enough how hard it is to feel like you’re losing the closeness of a friendship even if you continue being friends in other ways, but it was just hard to read.

Feenie, Ryan, and Alice go to a party, and Alice’s new friend Takumi is coming later, whom Feenie is excited to meet. When Alice is getting drinks for them, Feenie and Ryan disappear upstairs to have sex, leaving Feenie on her own. (She is harassed/assaulted by a guy, which is not their fault, just adds to it all.) Takumi arrives and they leave the party since the others left her anyway (even if they didn’t leave the building), and Alice is a little mad, but mostly just sad that Feenie and Ryan would do that — highlighting the minimizing of their friendship in favour of a romantic couple getting a legal stamp on their relationship — and upset about the guy harassing her. But Feenie is not apologetic at all — she’s angry at Alice for months(?) saying that she should be able to spend time alone with her boyfriend and is mad at Alice for leaving the party and forming a friendship with Takumi (she is now afraid she’s being replaced). Even once they start to make up there is no real apology on Feenie’s part or acknowledging of the harassment being a reason why Alice left or assuring Alice they will always be soulmates and play an important role in each other’s lives — if anything it’s Alice apologizing to her.

I saw comments (about the book) saying how Alice shouldn’t be upset about having to explain asexuality to people (she isn’t — she just laments having to know when/why it’s important to share and having insecurity/internalized bias because of experiences she’s had in the past) and about how great Takumi was. Maybe that heightened my expectations for him because even though people aren’t perfect all the time, I really just wanted Alice’s romantic movie moment when she asks Takumi on a date, and she didn’t get it. I understand needing time to think and process before making a decision and also definitely that not all allosexual people would match with an asexual person, but Takumi’s clearly liked her as a potential romantic/sexual partner probably since they met (according to him he’s also known that she was attracted to him since then too), and she’s told him she’s asexual (at least a month ago? There were also a lot of time jumps and events we were told about after they happened.) So wouldn’t he have considered if he could be in a romantic relationship with Alice? I don’t know, it just seemed like he was caught off-guard like they were not flirting with each other and knew they were moving towards something this whole time. It just made me sad. There was a lot of acephobia in the book and at the “big romantic moment” when Takumi tells Alice he didn’t understand how she could ever feel the same way about him as he does her because she doesn’t desire him sexually. She tells him all the time how cute and handsome he is, she looks at him with love, she took care of him when he was sick, she shares things with him she hasn’t told many people, and SHE TOLD HIM THAT SHE REALLY LIKES HIM, but apparently that’s not enough because she doesn’t feel strongly about wanting sex with him. And what convinced him that maybe she actually did care was that she got tears in her eyes when he was seemingly rejecting her.

Takumi “likes to take care of his body” and stays away from “calorie-dense, overprocessed, chemical-laden foods” — right away this is something that has my guard up because food restriction/healthism is something I try to stay away from, but it doesn’t stop Alice from enjoying her milkshakes and pancakes. Takumi is generally supportive of this, but when Alice says, “I literally cannot afford to be that selective about what I eat” (she’s on a tight budget), he says, “Can you really afford not to, though? You only have one body.” That felt incredibly dismissive and elitist on top of the healthism.

Just the acephobia and racism (overt and microaggressions) and sexual harassment.

Alice’s family. They are a family of lawyers and want her to go to law school, logging into her student account to see she’s not yet signed up for summer courses, scheduling her to attend law intro lectures, and badgering her throughout the entire book about getting on the law school track — and she really doesn’t have any interest in that at all. They probably already realize this (otherwise why would they need to call her 3x/day?), but maybe when she definitively tells them she doesn’t want to go to law school they will back off? No. She asks for a few weeks to put together a plan for what she wants, lays out pretty well how she wants to continue going to school but switch to a major in interior design, and they refuse to support her financially anymore and effectively disown her. The only real conclusion we get to this story is that her dad eventually says he will help her with rent and groceries, but not pay for school — that money will be saved until she goes to law school. And… later we find out that her sister dropped out of law school twice and wanted to do something else but was probably pressured back into it. And she’s been one of the worst ones harassing Alice about it throughout the whole book!

I think a part of what made this a negative reading experience for me was my depression at the time of reading it, but I think I also wanted it to be a more ace-positive romance like Claire Kann’s The Romantic Agenda (which I absolutely loved!) when it was more of a self-discovering/learning how to be confident about a not as well understood queer identity in an amatonormative world. Probably not the best decision, but I am also listening to Loveless by Alice Oseman while I was finishing this up and they are very similar in ways but Loveless is making me smile more and there are also ace-supporting characters speaking louder than the characters who need some more education because they are unfamiliar with what that means. I can appreciate that there are ace-spec readers who felt seen by this book (especially with a Black heroine who is also biromantic — in the limited ace literature that is even less common); it just wasn’t the book for me.

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funny informative lighthearted reflective sad medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? N/A
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

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emotional medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.25

I was excited for the asexual rep, but was disappointed in Alice -- she would get annoyed at anyone who didn't immediately understand her asexuality... but she never tried to explain it to them! (Like, she didn't explain that she does experience romantic feelings? Seems important to tell that to the guy you like/who likes you!)

Also, I will always judge a book that tries (and fails) to accurately represent library work, ha!

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