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3.74 AVERAGE
3.74 AVERAGE
Marvel's take on The Suicide Squad, only instead of Amanda Waller in charge, someone put the Green Goblin. Who hires evil psychiatrists. Wackiness ensues. Didn't see that little sharper Warren Ellis edge I was looking for, but I might have been distracted by all of the jutted out butts.
I was surprised that I liked this comics so much. I was prepared to be bored to death, as I haven't heard about this team before.It turned out to be quite a pleasant read.
It is worth it just to read Ellis' take on Norman Osborn a.k.a. the Green Goblin as a cross between the Joker and George W. Bush played by Tommy Lee Jones.
I fully admit I find villains more interesting. If 1% of the population gained superpowers tomorrow I can almost guarantee the ratio of heroes to villains would be highly skewed. Heroics have a pretty slim number of motivators, while behaving badly has a plethora. (Of course these stories rarely account for people who might get superpowers, and decide to continue living their lives normally.)
I didn't even know the Thunderbolts existed until the new change ups. It mostly came unto my radar because of my interest in Warren Ellis.
When comics feel they need to make something edgier, they seem to call Ellis almost as a default. Ellis has a natural habit of giving things little intelligent flair, a more thoughtful exploration of the ramifications of these fantastical worlds.
The hook for the Thunderbolts is that these characters are primarily villains working to bring in unregistered superhumans. While I thought it would have the anti-hero set up, where villains-make-good and show us that they're multi-faceted, it ends up being more like a Weapon X type scenario, where they are all forced into crime-fighting under extreme duress, primarily through nanomachines that can straight up murder them if they misbehave.
It's a lot of hijinks, failure, and double-dealing, and Ellis ends up creating something that almost resembles a crime-novel within the world of capes.
I didn't even know the Thunderbolts existed until the new change ups. It mostly came unto my radar because of my interest in Warren Ellis.
When comics feel they need to make something edgier, they seem to call Ellis almost as a default. Ellis has a natural habit of giving things little intelligent flair, a more thoughtful exploration of the ramifications of these fantastical worlds.
The hook for the Thunderbolts is that these characters are primarily villains working to bring in unregistered superhumans. While I thought it would have the anti-hero set up, where villains-make-good and show us that they're multi-faceted, it ends up being more like a Weapon X type scenario, where they are all forced into crime-fighting under extreme duress, primarily through nanomachines that can straight up murder them if they misbehave.
It's a lot of hijinks, failure, and double-dealing, and Ellis ends up creating something that almost resembles a crime-novel within the world of capes.
Fantastic characters and loved the scene with stan lee
Um estilo muito confuso e não muito apelativo, quer nos desenhos, quer no desenrolar da história?
3,5/5. For me the Thunderbolts are Marvel’s version of the Suicide Squad. This iteration is particularly violent, gory but lacks enough plot depth, even with good character development. All in all is just a spin-off of Civil War, which is also another copy of events from DC with great drawings and no soul. Not much beyond entertaining.
Cool to see the antiheroes and how the world was willing to let them "protect" them.
ellis completely turned the thunderbolts around after a series of weak volumes with little character development and uninspired storylines. this new team is just great. they’re a mess. all of them are on different sides and have different agendas. they have no idea how to make this team work and some of them don’t even care about making it work. they’re on this team not because they want to, but because they have to. THAT’S the thunderbolts i want to see. a messy team with a long list of problems.
the mood of this is a whole lot darker than any of the previous thunderbolts comics, and it does get a little Too edgy at times but overall i think the grittiness works well. it’s a nice change, i think.
and for the first time since the very first thunderbolts roster, every single character on this team interests me. robbie is one of the most dark and haunted characters i’ve seen in a while. after civil war, he is a Disaster and is carrying around a hell of a lot of baggage. if his penance character arc doesn’t get fucked up somewhere down the road (although i’ve heard that it does), i think it could very well end up being one of my favorite marvel character arcs ever. songbird is my wife and i love her. swordsman really has not had a lot of character development BUT he’s hot so i’ll let it slide. bullseye is batshit crazy and ruthless but his position as a secret member of the thunderbolts and the team’s “safety net”, as osborn calls him, is really intriguing. and also seeing american eagle beating the shit out of him was very satisfying. moonstone is so goddamn irritating but she brings so much to the table and her constant manipulation of everyone makes the dynamics of the team more complex and intense. norman osborn is also extremely irritating but i cannot deny how well written he is in this. i don’t know much abt mac gargan venom but i really loved that scene of him in the locker room talking about what it’s like to live with the venom symbiote and i’m excited to see more of him. chen lu is cool and i like him and songbird together but my god does the one chinese superhero have to be a smart radioactive dude whose whole personality is hating america
the mood of this is a whole lot darker than any of the previous thunderbolts comics, and it does get a little Too edgy at times but overall i think the grittiness works well. it’s a nice change, i think.
and for the first time since the very first thunderbolts roster, every single character on this team interests me. robbie is one of the most dark and haunted characters i’ve seen in a while. after civil war, he is a Disaster and is carrying around a hell of a lot of baggage. if his penance character arc doesn’t get fucked up somewhere down the road (although i’ve heard that it does), i think it could very well end up being one of my favorite marvel character arcs ever. songbird is my wife and i love her. swordsman really has not had a lot of character development BUT he’s hot so i’ll let it slide. bullseye is batshit crazy and ruthless but his position as a secret member of the thunderbolts and the team’s “safety net”, as osborn calls him, is really intriguing. and also seeing american eagle beating the shit out of him was very satisfying. moonstone is so goddamn irritating but she brings so much to the table and her constant manipulation of everyone makes the dynamics of the team more complex and intense. norman osborn is also extremely irritating but i cannot deny how well written he is in this. i don’t know much abt mac gargan venom but i really loved that scene of him in the locker room talking about what it’s like to live with the venom symbiote and i’m excited to see more of him. chen lu is cool and i like him and songbird together but my god does the one chinese superhero have to be a smart radioactive dude whose whole personality is hating america