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lunaseassecondaccount's review
3.0
More BSC fighting! Ahh, my favourite books.
There's good continuity in this book, something that the original BSC series lacked, especially when they got into the higher digits. Stacey actually mentions an event that happened in the original series (Stacey's Movie - book 130). Thank you,Ann M. Martin Suzanne Weyn!
But Stacey's also a jackass in this book. She goes from one boy to the next, never thinking about developing her own single self-identity. When Mary Anne's just fresh out of her breakup with Logan, Stacey immediately tries setting her up with Pete Black. At least Dave Griffin (possibly related to Rachel Griffin, who Stacey befriends in Stacey vs Claudia?) tries to understand that Mary Anne wants to be on her own for a while.
But finally, Mary Anne and Logan are no more! Logan's such a jackass. Go Mary Anne, shake your single ass and your creepy future visions. Better get that checked out- Sharon might have added some of her 'herbs' to your dinner last night.
There's good continuity in this book, something that the original BSC series lacked, especially when they got into the higher digits. Stacey actually mentions an event that happened in the original series (Stacey's Movie - book 130). Thank you,
But Stacey's also a jackass in this book. She goes from one boy to the next, never thinking about developing her own single self-identity. When Mary Anne's just fresh out of her breakup with Logan, Stacey immediately tries setting her up with Pete Black. At least Dave Griffin (possibly related to Rachel Griffin, who Stacey befriends in Stacey vs Claudia?) tries to understand that Mary Anne wants to be on her own for a while.
But finally, Mary Anne and Logan are no more! Logan's such a jackass. Go Mary Anne, shake your single ass and your creepy future visions. Better get that checked out- Sharon might have added some of her 'herbs' to your dinner last night.
magic_at_mungos's review against another edition
emotional
reflective
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
inthelunaseas's review
3.0
More BSC fighting! Ahh, my favourite books.
There's good continuity in this book, something that the original BSC series lacked, especially when they got into the higher digits. Stacey actually mentions an event that happened in the original series (Stacey's Movie - book 130). Thank you,Ann M. Martin Suzanne Weyn!
But Stacey's also a jackass in this book. She goes from one boy to the next, never thinking about developing her own single self-identity. When Mary Anne's just fresh out of her breakup with Logan, Stacey immediately tries setting her up with Pete Black. At least Dave Griffin (possibly related to Rachel Griffin, who Stacey befriends in Stacey vs Claudia?) tries to understand that Mary Anne wants to be on her own for a while.
But finally, Mary Anne and Logan are no more! Logan's such a jackass. Go Mary Anne, shake your single ass and your creepy future visions. Better get that checked out- Sharon might have added some of her 'herbs' to your dinner last night.
There's good continuity in this book, something that the original BSC series lacked, especially when they got into the higher digits. Stacey actually mentions an event that happened in the original series (Stacey's Movie - book 130). Thank you,
But Stacey's also a jackass in this book. She goes from one boy to the next, never thinking about developing her own single self-identity. When Mary Anne's just fresh out of her breakup with Logan, Stacey immediately tries setting her up with Pete Black. At least Dave Griffin (possibly related to Rachel Griffin, who Stacey befriends in Stacey vs Claudia?) tries to understand that Mary Anne wants to be on her own for a while.
But finally, Mary Anne and Logan are no more! Logan's such a jackass. Go Mary Anne, shake your single ass and your creepy future visions. Better get that checked out- Sharon might have added some of her 'herbs' to your dinner last night.
finesilkflower's review
3.0
This is basically a meandering rehash of [b:Mary Anne vs. Logan|48898|Mary Anne vs. Logan (The Baby-Sitters Club, #41)|Ann M. Martin|https://d2arxad8u2l0g7.cloudfront.net/books/1170356816s/48898.jpg|281852]. Mary Anne breaks up with Logan, ostensibly for the same reasons that caused their first breakup (Logan being overbearing), but we don't see any of his bad behavior as Mary Anne seems to have basically made up her mind by the beginning of the book. Logan and the other baby-sitters can't really see how his behavior had changed lately, and Mary Anne admits that it might be she who has changed. Her feelings about [b:The Fire at Mary Anne's House|540032|The Fire at Mary Anne's House (The Baby-Sitters Club, #131)|Ann M. Martin|https://d2arxad8u2l0g7.cloudfront.net/books/1387708244s/540032.jpg|527418] also factor in, as she seems to want a clean slate relationship-wise to go with her clean slate home-wise.
This does feel like a fairly final breakup. There's not a lot of indecision or overwrought angst, which makes it kind of a boring book, and also convinces me that Mary Anne is thoroughly through with Logan. Still, neither of them has done anything unforgivable and they still want to be friends, so the door is open if you insist on pairing them in futurefic.
In a lot of ways I admire Mary Anne for sticking to her guns, despite her friends' bafflement (they support her but don't understand; Stacey wants to get her together with a new guy right away, while Kristy, interestingly, takes Logan's side, objecting to the breakup and continuing to pal around with him after the breakup. I kind of like this; it makes sense that Kristy would get along well with sporty Logan and become genuine friends with him beyond her connection via Mary Anne.) Mary Anne resists going with the path of least resistance, which has historically been a problem for her, and refuses to be in a relationship she's not excited about, even though she can't always exactly articulate why to the satisfaction of others. She prefers being alone to being in a "meh" relationship. I feel like this is a good lesson, and I don't blame her in the least. For a Mary Anne feelings book, it's therefore surprisingly un-irritating. But it does not make for the most entertaining story, because nothing really happens in it.
Meanwhile, the Spier/Schafer family plan to renovate the barn into a home is underway, as Richard has hired contractors. One of them spends a lot of time saying metaphorical things about gardens to Mary Anne. I don't see how they are going to be done by the New Year.
Author Gratefully Acknowledges: Suzanne Weyn
Timing: Early November
Revised Timeline: Third academic year postgrad (or 11 years post-8th-grade, making them all 24). I guess this is as good a time as any to shed your all-through-college boyfriend and make a fresh start.
This does feel like a fairly final breakup. There's not a lot of indecision or overwrought angst, which makes it kind of a boring book, and also convinces me that Mary Anne is thoroughly through with Logan. Still, neither of them has done anything unforgivable and they still want to be friends, so the door is open if you insist on pairing them in futurefic.
In a lot of ways I admire Mary Anne for sticking to her guns, despite her friends' bafflement (they support her but don't understand; Stacey wants to get her together with a new guy right away, while Kristy, interestingly, takes Logan's side, objecting to the breakup and continuing to pal around with him after the breakup. I kind of like this; it makes sense that Kristy would get along well with sporty Logan and become genuine friends with him beyond her connection via Mary Anne.) Mary Anne resists going with the path of least resistance, which has historically been a problem for her, and refuses to be in a relationship she's not excited about, even though she can't always exactly articulate why to the satisfaction of others. She prefers being alone to being in a "meh" relationship. I feel like this is a good lesson, and I don't blame her in the least. For a Mary Anne feelings book, it's therefore surprisingly un-irritating. But it does not make for the most entertaining story, because nothing really happens in it.
Meanwhile, the Spier/Schafer family plan to renovate the barn into a home is underway, as Richard has hired contractors. One of them spends a lot of time saying metaphorical things about gardens to Mary Anne. I don't see how they are going to be done by the New Year.
Author Gratefully Acknowledges: Suzanne Weyn
Timing: Early November
Revised Timeline: Third academic year postgrad (or 11 years post-8th-grade, making them all 24). I guess this is as good a time as any to shed your all-through-college boyfriend and make a fresh start.
sammah's review
3.0
Mary Anne finally got a spine! It only took about 150 books for that to happen, but hallelujah! I am so proud of her in this moment!
ssshira's review
1.0
in this book by ghostwriter [a:Suzanne Weyn|99836|Suzanne Weyn|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1225668404p2/99836.jpg], mary anne and logan break up. again, we knew what was going to happen based on the title. logan has always been overbearing, making decisions on mary anne’s behalf about what they will do on dates and what she wants to eat and such. they even broke up because of it back in [b:Mary Anne vs. Logan|48898|Mary Anne vs. Logan (The Baby-Sitters Club, #41)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1562088914l/48898._SX50_.jpg|281852]. but he’s gotten even worse since [b:The Fire at Mary Anne's House|540032|The Fire at Mary Anne's House (The Baby-Sitters Club, #131)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387708244l/540032._SX50_.jpg|527418], and when mary anne tries to exert her independence, logan gets weird about it because he’s a horrible boyfriend. she complains and he basically says that he’s just being himself and it’s not fair for mary anne to ask him to change. so finally she breaks up with him. everyone at school acts weird around her: some kids seem to pity her while others seem mad at her. logan acts all wounded, furthering the idea of mary anne as the villain and logan as the victim, which is just not accurate to their situation at all. there’s a dance coming up, and a couple different boys at school ask mary anne to it, but she doesn’t feel ready to date. then she sees kristy talking to logan and becomes convinced that they are going to the dance together and are dating (because the events of [b:Kristy + Bart = ?|646461|Kristy + Bart = ? (The Baby-Sitters Club, #95)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387712240l/646461._SX50_.jpg|632608] apparently weren’t sufficient to show mary anne that her best friend is not attracted to boys) and tries to get kristy to take her side. but kristy is loyal to both mary anne and logan, because she is friends with both of them, and she won’t hate on her friend’s ex just because they broke up. but of course, she does tell mary anne that she and logan are in fact NOT going to the dance together. the night of the dance, logan basically invites himself over mary anne’s house to watch a movie. they have a good time, and logan points out that since they still have fun together he doesn’t think they should be apart. then he is super condescending and says that mary anne isn’t in her right mind because of the fire, so she shouldn’t be making these big decisions right now. mary anne fights back, and logan says that mary anne will never be happy with anyone because she expects people to be in tune to her every feeling. which is sort of true, but also how hard is it to check in with your girlfriend before making plans on her behalf? anyway, it’s left like that. dawn makes mary anne feel a little better by pointing out that mary anne has always defined herself by her relationships and that it's good that she's changing.
highlights:
-mary anne finds a letter she had written to logan right after they got back together in which she said she feels like half a person without him. and she realizes that that's not a good thing. wow, is she actually growing?
lowlights/nitpicks:
-mary anne has a card from logan from when she was a mother's helper in sea city and they missed each other a lot. but the only time they were dating when she was a mother’s helper was in [b:Mary Anne and Too Many Boys|233789|Mary Anne and Too Many Boys (The Baby-Sitters Club, #34)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1435682558l/233789._SX50_.jpg|2152020], when she was basically avoidant of her relationship. in [b:Sea City, Here We Come!|282613|Sea City, Here We Come! (Babysitters Club Special, #10)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1173398445l/282613._SY75_.jpg|281839] it was jessi and mal who were mother’s helpers, not mary anne.
-when they're fighting about how logan decides everything for them, he says that he's just being him and he doesn't ask mary anne to change so she shouldn’t ask for him to change. but it's like...yeah you do. you want her to do everything you want all the time, so that is making her change to accommodate you.
-logan's siblings are mad at mary anne for breaking up with him but she still has to babysit them. she explains that she still likes him as a person but doesn't want to date him anymore. then logan comes home and hunter says that mary anne still likes him, which logan of course takes the wrong way. because little kids ruin everything.
-claudia says she's positive jeremy would have liked her if not for stacey. really, claudia? REALLY?
-the garden contractor is planning for the new house's garden and mary anne wonders if it's hard to conceptualize when it’s not the right season yet, but the garden contractor says it's easy because you just don't have to limit yourself and should experiment with life. what an obvious unnuanced metaphor for mary anne’s specific situation.
-mary anne goes apple picking with the thomases and richard spier requests red delicious apples. really? red delicious are the worst kind of apples!
-kristy is a bad friend: she apparently told her little siblings that mary anne was crazy to break up with logan. woof.
-apparently in the past mary anne and logan saw the movie paulie (with jesse eisenberg's sister!) and mary anne liked it but logan kept insisting it was dumb, and finally mary anne felt like she had to agree with him. yeah, that sounds infuriating. like when everyone forces marshall to agree that ducks are good and rabbits are bad and it’s like...you and your friends can have a difference of opinion and still be friends.
-the worst logan gets is when he says that because mary anne has been through a lot lately he doesn’t trust her judgment. this is truly the most condescending and possibly abusive thing. like, using that logic, he could manipulate her into staying in that relationship forever.
-logan says "I do not push you around or make you do things my way...that's just the way you see things." because mary anne’s perceptions must be wrong. seriously, I HATE LOGAN SO MUCH.
outfits
claud:
-"Today she was wearing white painter's coveralls decorated with a wild daisy pattern she'd created herself."
mary anne:
-"I...dressed in jeans, a sweatshirt, and an orange fleece pullover."
-"I pulled on a long-sleeved T-shirt, overalls, sneakers, and a heavy sweater."
snacks in claudia’s room:
-carrots and celery sticks (n.s.)
-potato chips under the pillow on her bed
-pringles in her bottom dresser drawer
-cracker jacks in her bottom dresser drawer
highlights:
-mary anne finds a letter she had written to logan right after they got back together in which she said she feels like half a person without him. and she realizes that that's not a good thing. wow, is she actually growing?
lowlights/nitpicks:
-mary anne has a card from logan from when she was a mother's helper in sea city and they missed each other a lot. but the only time they were dating when she was a mother’s helper was in [b:Mary Anne and Too Many Boys|233789|Mary Anne and Too Many Boys (The Baby-Sitters Club, #34)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1435682558l/233789._SX50_.jpg|2152020], when she was basically avoidant of her relationship. in [b:Sea City, Here We Come!|282613|Sea City, Here We Come! (Babysitters Club Special, #10)|Ann M. Martin|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1173398445l/282613._SY75_.jpg|281839] it was jessi and mal who were mother’s helpers, not mary anne.
-when they're fighting about how logan decides everything for them, he says that he's just being him and he doesn't ask mary anne to change so she shouldn’t ask for him to change. but it's like...yeah you do. you want her to do everything you want all the time, so that is making her change to accommodate you.
-logan's siblings are mad at mary anne for breaking up with him but she still has to babysit them. she explains that she still likes him as a person but doesn't want to date him anymore. then logan comes home and hunter says that mary anne still likes him, which logan of course takes the wrong way. because little kids ruin everything.
-claudia says she's positive jeremy would have liked her if not for stacey. really, claudia? REALLY?
-the garden contractor is planning for the new house's garden and mary anne wonders if it's hard to conceptualize when it’s not the right season yet, but the garden contractor says it's easy because you just don't have to limit yourself and should experiment with life. what an obvious unnuanced metaphor for mary anne’s specific situation.
-mary anne goes apple picking with the thomases and richard spier requests red delicious apples. really? red delicious are the worst kind of apples!
-kristy is a bad friend: she apparently told her little siblings that mary anne was crazy to break up with logan. woof.
-apparently in the past mary anne and logan saw the movie paulie (with jesse eisenberg's sister!) and mary anne liked it but logan kept insisting it was dumb, and finally mary anne felt like she had to agree with him. yeah, that sounds infuriating. like when everyone forces marshall to agree that ducks are good and rabbits are bad and it’s like...you and your friends can have a difference of opinion and still be friends.
-the worst logan gets is when he says that because mary anne has been through a lot lately he doesn’t trust her judgment. this is truly the most condescending and possibly abusive thing. like, using that logic, he could manipulate her into staying in that relationship forever.
-logan says "I do not push you around or make you do things my way...that's just the way you see things." because mary anne’s perceptions must be wrong. seriously, I HATE LOGAN SO MUCH.
outfits
claud:
-"Today she was wearing white painter's coveralls decorated with a wild daisy pattern she'd created herself."
mary anne:
-"I...dressed in jeans, a sweatshirt, and an orange fleece pullover."
-"I pulled on a long-sleeved T-shirt, overalls, sneakers, and a heavy sweater."
snacks in claudia’s room:
-carrots and celery sticks (n.s.)
-potato chips under the pillow on her bed
-pringles in her bottom dresser drawer
-cracker jacks in her bottom dresser drawer
liannakiwi's review
3.0
(LL)
Again, Mary Anne breaks up with Logan and he tries to tell her she’s wrong while all her friends tell her she needs to figure out who she is without a man...since she’s only known for being in the BSC and dating Logan. She’s a basic bitch and Dawn finally calls her out on it (of all people).
Again, Mary Anne breaks up with Logan and he tries to tell her she’s wrong while all her friends tell her she needs to figure out who she is without a man...since she’s only known for being in the BSC and dating Logan. She’s a basic bitch and Dawn finally calls her out on it (of all people).
lovelyflowersinherhair's review
5.0
The Mary Anne books are the saving grace of the Friends Forever series-we get to see more of the Schafer-Spier home life than we usually do in the series and Sharon and Richard prove to be more likable characters than some of the sitters themselves.
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