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3.31 AVERAGE
Really interesting, not only the book but the "lifestyle". The associated PUA forums and websites are still active today. I found it interesting that the book cover looked similar to a bible; concealing it's contents perhaps? A guy I was seeing was shocked to see this book on my bookshelf. Apparently this is a more well-known book among younger single men. I would recommend that women consider reading this book. As a single woman myself I feel having read this book I've been equipped with a tool. Out and about I think about negging and peacocking etc.
Overall Neil is a good writer, the book was engaging to the end. Good or bad the story has stuck with me over the years.
A reflection on this book and it's impact on the dating world. I think this book does explain some of the disconnect or disengagement that exists in the dating world today. It seems everyone is trying to avoid commitment or trying to see who can care less. My friend significantly participated in the PUA culture during his twenties. At that time it was fun and he successfully enjoyed had all the experiences he desired. Now nearing his forties, he is still unattached, feels a little like a failure for not starting a family. He still seems to avoid confessing he has deeper feelings for people he clearly loves. I think this book might have contributed to him thinking it would be a sign of weakness to tell a woman he loves them. I hope he eventually gets out of "The Game".
Overall Neil is a good writer, the book was engaging to the end. Good or bad the story has stuck with me over the years.
A reflection on this book and it's impact on the dating world. I think this book does explain some of the disconnect or disengagement that exists in the dating world today. It seems everyone is trying to avoid commitment or trying to see who can care less. My friend significantly participated in the PUA culture during his twenties. At that time it was fun and he successfully enjoyed had all the experiences he desired. Now nearing his forties, he is still unattached, feels a little like a failure for not starting a family. He still seems to avoid confessing he has deeper feelings for people he clearly loves. I think this book might have contributed to him thinking it would be a sign of weakness to tell a woman he loves them. I hope he eventually gets out of "The Game".
This book was so unnecessarily long; it could have used some serious editing. I got through about 100 pages, got bored, skipped to and skimmed the last 100 pages or so, and felt like I didn't miss anything. I don't think it's a bad thing if Strauss's story helps guys learn how to approach and meet women, provided those guys eventually come to the realization that he did-- at some point, once you've become more comfortable, it's time to grow up and stop using women for sex without any emotional connection (some women could use that reminder, too, although the motivation is usually different). Finally, the pages and pages about the melodrama in the Project Hollywood house made me realize that guys aren't that different than girls--they're just as catty and manipulative as women can be. That part was a like a super boring reality tv show.
Не съдържа отговори на въпроси, свързани с личностното развитие. Съдържа отговор на въпроса как се прави тройка. Съдържа и много истории на абсолютно откачени хора, които го играят гурута и духовни водачи.
2 причини да не дам 5-ца. Първата е, че оставя усещане за мърсотия и е смущаваща. Втората, че не ми звучи достоверно.
2 причини да не й дам 1-ца. Мърсотията не я прави лоша. Това, че звучи недостоверно не значи, че не се е случила.
Препоръчвам само на хора със здрави нерви, които четат бързо.
2 причини да не дам 5-ца. Първата е, че оставя усещане за мърсотия и е смущаваща. Втората, че не ми звучи достоверно.
2 причини да не й дам 1-ца. Мърсотията не я прави лоша. Това, че звучи недостоверно не значи, че не се е случила.
Препоръчвам само на хора със здрави нерви, които четат бързо.
Ok, I read this book at the suggestion of one of my book club members. It was not what I expected. I was expecting a psychological analysis and guidebook on the workings of male/female relationships. What I felt I got was a memoir written by a man (a good writer, by the way) who had at that point only published memoirs co-written with famous people (Jenna Jameson, Dave Navarro) and finally got to write the novel wherein he was the central character and celebrity. I found the first half to be interesting and witty. And then you get to the middle where he "masters" The Game and it just becomes a sort of disgusting chronicle of exploits. I found myself disgusted with the entire male population while reading about the pick-up community and the author's submersion into it. Strauss really doesn't make men (especially socially awkward young men) sound very appealing in this book. I grudgingly finished the book just to see if my prediction that the author had to fuck 8 million women before he could really appreciate the love and companionship of one would be the end result (I won't ruin the end for you by telling you whether I was right or not).
The crux of it was this: I hated the book while I was reading it. But I have had several really fantastic discussions about it. I absorbed much more of the terminology and tricks of the trade than I thought I had. I've spent more than one alcohol infused evening discussing not so much the story-line but the tricks and methods that Strauss outlines in the book with groups of men and women alike. Although I start out stating my hatred for the book, I must be a great salesman, because everyone wants to check the book out by the time our discussion is over. Therefore, I grudgingly move it from 1 to 2 stars, because it's great conversation even if those chapters extolling Strauss' sexual prowess and woman-baiting powers got a bit gross.
The crux of it was this: I hated the book while I was reading it. But I have had several really fantastic discussions about it. I absorbed much more of the terminology and tricks of the trade than I thought I had. I've spent more than one alcohol infused evening discussing not so much the story-line but the tricks and methods that Strauss outlines in the book with groups of men and women alike. Although I start out stating my hatred for the book, I must be a great salesman, because everyone wants to check the book out by the time our discussion is over. Therefore, I grudgingly move it from 1 to 2 stars, because it's great conversation even if those chapters extolling Strauss' sexual prowess and woman-baiting powers got a bit gross.
Honestly, the only reason I picked up this book is because I heard Amy Landino recommended it for helping improve small talk and networking techniques. I can’t imagine why. She usually has such good recommendations, but this time... ugh. I might think twice next time I pick up a book that she recommends.
OK, I picked this up after some dating show was on TV (on mute) at a bar I was playing darts at. It was quite an engrossing memoir of how this dude lived the life and learned (and made up) some of their methods. It was really kind of a tale of personalities (Courtney Love's in there, along with the author and Mystery-the-pickup-artist) - some good, some bad. It kept me up too late reading it - very entertaining.
I have very mixed feelings on this book. I "borrowed" a copy, because I wasn't willing to give this dirtbag my money, but this was an extremely entertaining memoir nonetheless and helped me pass time on a long trip. Of course, it's infuriating to read about men coming together to manipulate women and blaming women for the "men beg/women resist" framing around sex. I also didn't buy into the author's supposed code of ethics in which he claims to have been honest, giving women what they want, etc.
However, I took a lot of perverse joy in hearing what utter failures most of these guys turned out to be, and really, how this whole notion of PUA is just one more subculture where people are desperately trying to find a place to belong.
However, I took a lot of perverse joy in hearing what utter failures most of these guys turned out to be, and really, how this whole notion of PUA is just one more subculture where people are desperately trying to find a place to belong.
reflective
medium-paced
I thought this was going to be a guide for losers on how to pick up women, but it turned out to be the story of a guy who needed a guide for losers on how to pick up women. It was interesting to see what the PUAs did, but the arc was somewhat predictable and I felt like Neil Strauss was still awfully full of himself by the end, even though he "learned his lesson."
“If there was anything I'd learned, it's that the man never chooses the woman. All he can do is give her an opportunity to choose him.”
This is not a normal book read for me. I got it for my husband after he heard the author on the Howard Stern show. I will say that this is definitely a book geared for men but if you are an open minded female it is an interesting enough story that of one man’s journey from a total average boy next door struggling to get a date, into a super mac daddy to a man who learned what it meant to really connect with someone else.
The journey was full of interesting people and ideas. If you are a single male this is a great book to if nothing else get across that the more confident you are the more likely you are to attract someone of the opposite sex. Everyone knows that right, but it gives you some great ways to create an opening in a social situation. If you are creative you could probably take some ideas from this book and twist them up to your benefit.
There are some stories in the book including interactions with Scott Bayo and Tom Cruise that were incredibly interesting. The story of Mystery and the workshops he was running for men to learn how to seduce women were crazy and it was hard to believe that someone would walk around in complete peacock fashion but I’ve seen pictures since reading the book and it would seem that the portrayal him was pretty accurate. Mystery had a pretty up and down life, he was an interesting character in the book and reading about his highs and lows put an interesting spin on the story.
Guys If you might need a little extra help to figure out how to talk to girls, or what to read about someone else’s struggles and triumphs then this is probably a good start. It also has a list of books that you might want to check out on how to please a woman in bed…..just a suggestion, as well as other books on seduction if you are so inclined to delve deeper. I don’t think it will make you into a dating machine but it had some decent tips and a story is totally directed toward men.
Girls If you are single and part of the dating scene, I’d recommend reading this. Chances are some form of the game has been run on you at some point. I’m not saying to shoot down anyone that tries to run a scenario on you, but at least you would know ahead of time what you were getting into. This book might have saved me from a jerk or two back in my single days. I think that most girls will like where the story ends.
And the Moral of the story is.....
“Without commitment, you cannot have depth in anything, whether it's a relationship, a business or a hobby.”
This is not a normal book read for me. I got it for my husband after he heard the author on the Howard Stern show. I will say that this is definitely a book geared for men but if you are an open minded female it is an interesting enough story that of one man’s journey from a total average boy next door struggling to get a date, into a super mac daddy to a man who learned what it meant to really connect with someone else.
The journey was full of interesting people and ideas. If you are a single male this is a great book to if nothing else get across that the more confident you are the more likely you are to attract someone of the opposite sex. Everyone knows that right, but it gives you some great ways to create an opening in a social situation. If you are creative you could probably take some ideas from this book and twist them up to your benefit.
There are some stories in the book including interactions with Scott Bayo and Tom Cruise that were incredibly interesting. The story of Mystery and the workshops he was running for men to learn how to seduce women were crazy and it was hard to believe that someone would walk around in complete peacock fashion but I’ve seen pictures since reading the book and it would seem that the portrayal him was pretty accurate. Mystery had a pretty up and down life, he was an interesting character in the book and reading about his highs and lows put an interesting spin on the story.
Guys If you might need a little extra help to figure out how to talk to girls, or what to read about someone else’s struggles and triumphs then this is probably a good start. It also has a list of books that you might want to check out on how to please a woman in bed…..just a suggestion, as well as other books on seduction if you are so inclined to delve deeper. I don’t think it will make you into a dating machine but it had some decent tips and a story is totally directed toward men.
Girls If you are single and part of the dating scene, I’d recommend reading this. Chances are some form of the game has been run on you at some point. I’m not saying to shoot down anyone that tries to run a scenario on you, but at least you would know ahead of time what you were getting into. This book might have saved me from a jerk or two back in my single days. I think that most girls will like where the story ends.
And the Moral of the story is.....
“Without commitment, you cannot have depth in anything, whether it's a relationship, a business or a hobby.”