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fkshg8465's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Bullying, Colonisation, Incest, Pedophilia, Sexual violence, Child abuse, Cultural appropriation, Death of parent, Medical content, Genocide, Kidnapping, Medical trauma, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Death, Racism, Classism, Confinement, Physical abuse, and Sexual assault
sammysloth's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Colonisation, Animal cruelty, Adult/minor relationship, Animal death, and Child abuse
Moderate: Incest, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Rape, Torture, Genocide, Sexual assault, Abandonment, and Sexual violence
heynonnynonnie's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
- My favorite aspect of the book is the character and story progression that is advanced by what all narrators are pointedly ignoring. The author has purposefully written a narrator with little to no empathy, who is then validated by his friend and editor who pops in with many footnotes which provide additional detail, clarification, and often validation. Norton as a main character can be a narcissist, a snob, and unempathetic. All fairly common characteristics for a main characters dealing with the theme of moral relativism, but what's fascinating to read is how Norton is so rarely rebuked, how often he is praised, how linearly pleasing his perspective is, and how readily we can accept his viewpoint if we're not careful. How it takes just one other corroborating, credible source to bolster such a person. There are parts of the story where I am dyinggggggg that no one is pointing out the obvious and desperately reading page after page because I wanted to see him rebuked. For me it's a fun game of keep-away as the narrator sweeps his problems and messes under the rug while the fictional editor points out what lovely details said rug possesses. But rug aside, that's how so many of us actually learn about non-western cultures. There's so much western bias in foundational academic work that it's a constant game of trying to parse through an author's unconscious biases to attempt to unearth useful data. Hanya Yanagihara has recreated that same experience of constantly questioning what is true in this book, and I'm endlessly delighted (and morally mortified) by it.
- This game shows up in small details, how Norton stops using U'ivan words and replaces them with his created English counterparts. His initial lack of interest in learning U'ivan despite being on the island and only learning the language once he is in the States and in the lab (where it is artificial and under his control). Norton's tendency to muddle different cultures in a kind of hodgepodge orientalism. Rather than describe a new experience for what it is, he has a tendency to liken it to his idea of what another culture is like, despite not having experienced that culture either. His constant claims of being intellectually curious and how dull everyone else is, despite every single side character having some facet of marginalization and him reducing each person to how well they do their job or how attractive/important their approval is to getting him what he wants. There's just so many examples of how terrible Norton is that it's laughable when a new one crops up. Of course, OF COURSE! he would have this thought.
- I'm reluctant to recommend this book. Not only does it feature a charming but morally repugnant narrator who commits a number of atrocities, but I'm not sure everyone will find something meaningful in it because it is an exploration in moral relativism. While I'm of the opinion that the author is cleverly hiding the moral atrocities by averting us away from them (like how a magician keeps your eye away from the hole in the illusion), I can't help but wonder how purposefully writing such a character is different or more meaningful than accidentally writing one? Is it better to have a character who is knowingly written to behave like an unknowingly racist character than to have the unintentionally racist one? For me, I live for books that don't blantly ask these kinds of questions but create an atmosphere that lets the reader raise questions and slowly turn the nuances over in their head. I read this book slowly over several weeks because it brought up so many interesting questions and layered themes that I had to sit with before I was ready to continue. That's not always a fun experience for other readers especially when reading a series of disturbing atrocities.
- An assortment of other detractors: the beginning. It's far too long. It takes nearly 300 pages to get to the plot in the blurb. The book has a few pacing issues that could be resolved by skipping a good chunk of Norton's childhood and post-grad studies. But that section is incredibly reminiscent of Steinbeck's style, and I'm reluctant to par it down. The third act has a very different tone and pace than the rest of the book. On one hand, I can see this as the illusion fading as the reader becomes more and more disenchanted. On the other hand, I still think it could be written in a way that makes that more clear. I'm a little sad that there's not more discussion on the different cultures on U'ivu. Norton's perspective limits that, and while it is very much the point it's still a little disappointing, but many of the footnotes do provide additional color outside of Norton's perspective.
Graphic: Rape, Cultural appropriation, Animal death, Sexual assault, Pedophilia, Colonisation, and Animal cruelty
Moderate: Genocide
orlagal's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Child death, Chronic illness, Confinement, Animal death, Genocide, Gore, Physical abuse, Body shaming, Child abuse, Colonisation, Cultural appropriation, Forced institutionalization, Kidnapping, Medical content, Misogyny, Abandonment, Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Emotional abuse, Incest, Mental illness, Pedophilia, Sexual violence, Animal cruelty, Body horror, Death, Excrement, Fatphobia, Suicide, Death of parent, Grief, Sexual harassment, Suicide attempt, Domestic abuse, Pregnancy, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Toxic relationship, Trafficking, Gaslighting, Violence, Vomit, and Xenophobia
daisylady's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? No
4.0
Graphic: Sexual assault, Rape, Adult/minor relationship, Xenophobia, Sexual content, Colonisation, Animal cruelty, Sexual violence, Pedophilia, Medical content, Kidnapping, Incest, Genocide, Forced institutionalization, Confinement, Child abuse, and Animal death
graceclawson's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Graphic: Pedophilia and Rape
Moderate: Child abuse, Colonisation, Dementia, Emotional abuse, Forced institutionalization, and Genocide
mmatti300's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Child abuse, Physical abuse, Domestic abuse, Dementia, Death, and Genocide
Moderate: Suicide, Trafficking, Colonisation, and Animal cruelty
Minor: Forced institutionalization
victoria_lyle's review
Graphic: Child abuse, Genocide, Hate crime, Incest, Kidnapping, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, and Violence