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captwinghead's review against another edition
2.0
Re-read this and I didn't remember the first two issues that well.
This is an example of why we can't have nice things: I get that the life of a superhero is dangerous for the hero and their loved ones. I get that it's a common trope for the hero to reveal their identity and immediately have it negatively impact/endanger a loved one. I get that.
What I don't get is when a woman is killed solely for man pain. Ricketts was lucky: Busiek did the heavy lifting here. I've read books where a female character is introduced solely to be killed for the angst of it (that Wolverine book comes to mind). Ricketts dodges the criticism of Rumiko not being a full fleshed out character because Busiek made sure to give her agency and a personality. In this book, she exists solely to worry over Tony, blame herself for their breakup (fair, another writer already ruined that) and then she dies so Tony can angst over it and have an epiphany.
In the process, she is drawn in such an unnecessarily sexual manner. I know, I know, call me a nun but there is no need to show upskirts, a blouse that no woman in her right mind would wear and *grabs megaphone* there is never a need to draw nipples. Rumiko is introduced ass first and were it not for Tony's dialogue on that page, you wouldn't know who she was. Her friend/manager (?) slaps her in the face because... I honestly have no clue.
Ugh, so that sucked. It really did. Contrast that with better iterations of comic book character deaths and what comes to mind is Gwen Stacy's in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. That movie had tons of problems but I'll give it this: Gwen had to die for Peter's man pain but she saved 200+ beforehand. She made her own choices, had her own goals and didn't exist solely for Peter in that film. So, this book was garbage and Rumiko deserved better.
Moving on *sighs*. This is all part of the Avengers Disassembled arc which was painful for a lot of reasons. Oddly enough, the only real lasting effects I saw were Carol and Vision being distrustful of Wanda for years. I didn't really see anyone else holding onto that anger. Although, Hawkeye stayed dead for a little while. Anyway, Tony was cursed to lose his inhibitions, verbally attack Doom and ask Hank if he had anymore wives to beat. It was all really bad for his image but, I can't recall if that truly lasted.
I don't love how Tony's characterized here. The only moment I appreciated was when he's in the car and Pepper asks him "Why not quit the hero thing altogether?" and he says something like "And watch from the sidelines?" That was very Tony. He can't just sit idly by and watch others in need. It's not in his nature.
So, I can't really call this a recommend. You can get quite enough of Tony's angst from the main trade for Avengers Disassembled.
This is an example of why we can't have nice things: I get that the life of a superhero is dangerous for the hero and their loved ones. I get that it's a common trope for the hero to reveal their identity and immediately have it negatively impact/endanger a loved one. I get that.
What I don't get is when a woman is killed solely for man pain. Ricketts was lucky: Busiek did the heavy lifting here. I've read books where a female character is introduced solely to be killed for the angst of it (that Wolverine book comes to mind). Ricketts dodges the criticism of Rumiko not being a full fleshed out character because Busiek made sure to give her agency and a personality. In this book, she exists solely to worry over Tony, blame herself for their breakup (fair, another writer already ruined that) and then she dies so Tony can angst over it and have an epiphany.
In the process, she is drawn in such an unnecessarily sexual manner. I know, I know, call me a nun but there is no need to show upskirts, a blouse that no woman in her right mind would wear and *grabs megaphone* there is never a need to draw nipples. Rumiko is introduced ass first and were it not for Tony's dialogue on that page, you wouldn't know who she was. Her friend/manager (?) slaps her in the face because... I honestly have no clue.
Ugh, so that sucked. It really did. Contrast that with better iterations of comic book character deaths and what comes to mind is Gwen Stacy's in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. That movie had tons of problems but I'll give it this: Gwen had to die for Peter's man pain but she saved 200+ beforehand. She made her own choices, had her own goals and didn't exist solely for Peter in that film. So, this book was garbage and Rumiko deserved better.
Moving on *sighs*. This is all part of the Avengers Disassembled arc which was painful for a lot of reasons. Oddly enough, the only real lasting effects I saw were Carol and Vision being distrustful of Wanda for years. I didn't really see anyone else holding onto that anger. Although, Hawkeye stayed dead for a little while. Anyway, Tony was cursed to lose his inhibitions, verbally attack Doom and ask Hank if he had anymore wives to beat. It was all really bad for his image but, I can't recall if that truly lasted.
I don't love how Tony's characterized here. The only moment I appreciated was when he's in the car and Pepper asks him "Why not quit the hero thing altogether?" and he says something like "And watch from the sidelines?" That was very Tony. He can't just sit idly by and watch others in need. It's not in his nature.
So, I can't really call this a recommend. You can get quite enough of Tony's angst from the main trade for Avengers Disassembled.
mjfmjfmjf's review against another edition
4.0
Not an Iron Man or Tony Stark fan. But a really good story should make anyone a fan. This is a better than typical for Marvel story. The supporting super cast is a little weak, except perhaps for The Vision. But this definitely fills out the details around at least Iron Man's portion of Avengers Disassembled. And a heck of a lot better than the Fantastic Four issue. With mostly good enough but inconsistent art. The what is a superhero speech was definitely one of the low points.
dkmode's review against another edition
2.0
This is sort of a composite star rating, since it spans a bunch of comics of varying qualities.
Captain America (plus the couple issues of Captain America and the Falcon) - 1 star
Thor - 4 stars
Iron Man - 2 (more of a 2-and-a-half) stars.
Giving it a 2 overall since most of this is unlikable. Should note that the Thor: Ragnarok plotline is quite solid though; it could've used slower pacing, with moment-to-moment writing that is serviceable but not outstanding, yet ends up being a surprisingly meta commentary on comic book events, readers, and end-of-world stories. Reads like a superhero version of Cabin In The Woods.
Captain America (plus the couple issues of Captain America and the Falcon) - 1 star
Thor - 4 stars
Iron Man - 2 (more of a 2-and-a-half) stars.
Giving it a 2 overall since most of this is unlikable. Should note that the Thor: Ragnarok plotline is quite solid though; it could've used slower pacing, with moment-to-moment writing that is serviceable but not outstanding, yet ends up being a surprisingly meta commentary on comic book events, readers, and end-of-world stories. Reads like a superhero version of Cabin In The Woods.
lentesgrandes's review against another edition
4.0
Siento que de entre los que he leído por separado, el de Iron Man es más completo.
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Comienza incluso por donde comienza el primer numero de Vengadores Desunidos.
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Ese es el comienzo pero por donde va todo es completamente diferente. El fallecimiento de varios vengadores en batalla es algo que se da presencia en este comic.
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Aparte, Tony se da cuenta que el estrés puede ser peor que el alcohol. Tomas igual malas decisiones y es algo que está bien que se sepa.
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Es bien sabido que siempre que este super héroe tiene muchos enemigos por su tecnología pero no ha habido tanto mal trip como en este.
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No pudo salvar a quien tenía que hacerlo por equivocación de todo y es bien feo Sherk.
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Comienza incluso por donde comienza el primer numero de Vengadores Desunidos.
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Ese es el comienzo pero por donde va todo es completamente diferente. El fallecimiento de varios vengadores en batalla es algo que se da presencia en este comic.
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Aparte, Tony se da cuenta que el estrés puede ser peor que el alcohol. Tomas igual malas decisiones y es algo que está bien que se sepa.
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Es bien sabido que siempre que este super héroe tiene muchos enemigos por su tecnología pero no ha habido tanto mal trip como en este.
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No pudo salvar a quien tenía que hacerlo por equivocación de todo y es bien feo Sherk.
bowienerd_82's review against another edition
2.0
I love the way they just fridged Rumiko for no good reason. Not awesome, Harris & Ricketts. Not awesome at all.
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