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This is Rob Bell:



he says this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODUvw2McL8g

francis chan thinks rob bell is an idiot... okay he never actually says that, but it's pretty clear he is if nothing else not a fan.

this is francis chan:



I was expecting him to be an old idiot crumugeon I'm not sure what to do with the fact he's actually not bad looking.

he says this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnrJVTSYLr8

I think he's an idiot. and a jack ass.

this book is an attempt to prove rob bell wrong.

there were some weird facts in this.

like the idea that the jewish majority in the time of jesus believed in hell. I have never met a jew who believed in hell so I went off and asked my religious jewish friends about that. they said that most jews had never believed in hell, but some believed in a year long purification then everyone would be in the same place... wait that's not at all what chan said he said the jews said burn forever. he said we can extrapolate the fact that jesus thought that cause everyone thought that therefore if he didn't agree he would have said so. I think this is one of those philosophical arguments that hangs itself.

He also says we don't know good and evil only god does... didn't we eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. then he says god was never wrong in the old testament... wait didn't people talk god out of doing things in the old testament. but then sometimes he must be wrong...

he says god wants vengence... really? he sends the people who've never heard the gospel to hell... really? he leaves all the prejesus people in hell... really?

he says that we are confused we ask do we want to believe in this god instead of could we believe in this god. I don't ever want to meet someone who could believe in this god.

another opinion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqquvhwRoW4


and a happy dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w10LsGpVfl4