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4.29 AVERAGE
4.29 AVERAGE
adventurous
dark
mysterious
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
adventurous
dark
inspiring
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
adventurous
dark
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
Well, I can't say that I didn't enjoy this book, because I truly did. However, it really seemed to drag for me. I don't know if this was due to the overabundance of Catelyn and Sansa chapters or if I just find the build up to the war tedious. Maybe both. I also found myself getting bored following Jon Snow's tale. The things that saved this book for me were Tyrion (as always) and Arya. Their chapters still captivated me. Still, it was a well written book and worth the read. Just not my favorite of the series so far.
adventurous
dark
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
finally done. this wasnt very good. it felt like a lot of set up for the next book. though that could be because i watched the show and knew where things were going. still i didnt like it. there shouldve been an osha chapter i think
dark
hopeful
sad
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
This book was very dull, in my opinion. I had a hard time getting through it. My biggest issue with the ASOIAF series is that they're advertised as fantasy epics, but they barely feel like fantasy to me. The first book had hardly anything except for some background information about dragons and The Children and the wights, and now this one has dragons and the magic that comes with the Lord of Light, and that's all well and good, but there was not nearly enough of it for my liking. (that being said, I do find all the WB about these creatures fascinating I just wish there was more actually present in the story)
I LOVE DRAGONS, Y'ALL. I want to read all about them, but I do not want to read about dragons breastfeeding from a fourteen-year-old girl. It's weird. Very uncomfortable. Dany had five chapters in this book, and each never failed to mention her nipples. I would love to know what GRRM's obsession is with bringing up her boobs/nipples. The women of Quarth leave one breast exposed(and yes, I know some cultures do this), but it felt like another excuse for GRRM to talk about Dany's boobs. Dany is also one of the most compelling characters, IMO, yet she is hardly utilized. I feel like so much more could've been done with her storyline, but whatever, I guess.
GRRM does a great job of characterization and world-building, as usual. His characters are all morally grey, which I appreciate. No one is perfect. No one is all good or all bad. The characters you are meant to like the most do some genuinely heinous things, not to mention what the characters you don't like pull. Tyrion Lannister is fascinating to read about. It's apparent he's the author's favorite character, given that he has the most POV chapters throughout the book. Despite his chapters having no fantasy elements that I can recall, they were some of the ones I enjoyed reading the most. I like how clever Tyrion is and how ruthless he can be. Reading about him doing everything in his power to undermine Cersei was excellent. Yet, the moment he threatened to rape Tommen if any of Cersei's guards raped Alayaya, I wanted to yeet myself off a cliff. I'll touch more on the rape in this book shortly.
I love that many characters make wrong moves from time to time. Cersei forces them to pull Joffrey back from the Mud Gate and essentially causes the soldiers to abandon ship, yet she gives no fucks because her son is at least safe. Cersei is one of my favorite characters as well. I hate her deeply and want her to suffer, but she's also so evil and exciting to read about.
Theon is the biggest idiot on the planet. His chapters were so pitiful. He is too weak to realize that his father gives not one crap about him and that betraying Robb was the worst thing for him to do.
I don't understand why people ship Sansa and the Hound. He's so scary?? Like he goes from threatening to kill Sansa to promising to protect her and make sure no one hurts her, then right back to holding a knife to her throat?? Like, sir, can you calm down, please? Even so, I wish Sansa had gone with him because her storyline would've been far more interesting at his side. Then she could've reunited with Arya along the way.
These books can get incredibly dull considering their length; though there are few exciting parts, it took me so damn long to slog through this because of the rape and pages upon pages of political information. Some people are into that, but I was promised a fantasy epic, which was barely delivered.
Also, why is GRRM obsessed with rape? Yes, I know he claims he does it to be historically accurate, but it doesn't need to be that ridiculous. If the rape were removed from this book alone, it would probably be cut in half. It's the fact that the rape is so blasé every time it's mentioned. It's added in like a 'fun little side story' heard from a random dude, never another woman unless they're also a villain. Lollys' rape was mentioned as a sort of throwaway thing, and then the way women treated her afterwards was appalling. She was raped by 50 men and then impregnated by one of her rapists, and she is clearly in a deep, spiraling depression, but no one can empathize. I find it wild that Shae wouldn't be even a little kind to this girl, but her response is 'they only FUCKED her' Like I'm sorry, are you kidding me, Shae?
There are so many casual rape threats as well. A woman threatens to rape Arya with a broom. Roose Bolton ties up and shaves women who slept with Lannister soldiers to stay alive, leaving them available for any man who wants to use them. Gregor Clegane and his soldiers gang-raped a thirteen-year-old girl and made her father pay him for it. Ramsay Bolton raped Lady Hornwood and starved her to death in a tower--she also chewed off her fingers. There are plenty more, but I'm not about to list all of them. It's insane to me and makes me not want to read these books anymore. I can't imagine why someone finds it necessary to include this much rape in a book meant to be a fantasy epic about fuckin' dragons and war. You created this world; you did not need to do any of this. I don't care about your garbage historical accuracy, bro. Stop raping everyone, my god.
I need a break from these books already.
I LOVE DRAGONS, Y'ALL. I want to read all about them, but I do not want to read about dragons breastfeeding from a fourteen-year-old girl. It's weird. Very uncomfortable. Dany had five chapters in this book, and each never failed to mention her nipples. I would love to know what GRRM's obsession is with bringing up her boobs/nipples. The women of Quarth leave one breast exposed(and yes, I know some cultures do this), but it felt like another excuse for GRRM to talk about Dany's boobs. Dany is also one of the most compelling characters, IMO, yet she is hardly utilized. I feel like so much more could've been done with her storyline, but whatever, I guess.
GRRM does a great job of characterization and world-building, as usual. His characters are all morally grey, which I appreciate. No one is perfect. No one is all good or all bad. The characters you are meant to like the most do some genuinely heinous things, not to mention what the characters you don't like pull. Tyrion Lannister is fascinating to read about. It's apparent he's the author's favorite character, given that he has the most POV chapters throughout the book. Despite his chapters having no fantasy elements that I can recall, they were some of the ones I enjoyed reading the most. I like how clever Tyrion is and how ruthless he can be. Reading about him doing everything in his power to undermine Cersei was excellent. Yet, the moment he threatened to rape Tommen if any of Cersei's guards raped Alayaya, I wanted to yeet myself off a cliff. I'll touch more on the rape in this book shortly.
I love that many characters make wrong moves from time to time. Cersei forces them to pull Joffrey back from the Mud Gate and essentially causes the soldiers to abandon ship, yet she gives no fucks because her son is at least safe. Cersei is one of my favorite characters as well. I hate her deeply and want her to suffer, but she's also so evil and exciting to read about.
Theon is the biggest idiot on the planet. His chapters were so pitiful. He is too weak to realize that his father gives not one crap about him and that betraying Robb was the worst thing for him to do.
I don't understand why people ship Sansa and the Hound. He's so scary?? Like he goes from threatening to kill Sansa to promising to protect her and make sure no one hurts her, then right back to holding a knife to her throat?? Like, sir, can you calm down, please? Even so, I wish Sansa had gone with him because her storyline would've been far more interesting at his side. Then she could've reunited with Arya along the way.
These books can get incredibly dull considering their length; though there are few exciting parts, it took me so damn long to slog through this because of the rape and pages upon pages of political information. Some people are into that, but I was promised a fantasy epic, which was barely delivered.
Also, why is GRRM obsessed with rape? Yes, I know he claims he does it to be historically accurate, but it doesn't need to be that ridiculous. If the rape were removed from this book alone, it would probably be cut in half. It's the fact that the rape is so blasé every time it's mentioned. It's added in like a 'fun little side story' heard from a random dude, never another woman unless they're also a villain. Lollys' rape was mentioned as a sort of throwaway thing, and then the way women treated her afterwards was appalling. She was raped by 50 men and then impregnated by one of her rapists, and she is clearly in a deep, spiraling depression, but no one can empathize. I find it wild that Shae wouldn't be even a little kind to this girl, but her response is 'they only FUCKED her' Like I'm sorry, are you kidding me, Shae?
There are so many casual rape threats as well. A woman threatens to rape Arya with a broom. Roose Bolton ties up and shaves women who slept with Lannister soldiers to stay alive, leaving them available for any man who wants to use them. Gregor Clegane and his soldiers gang-raped a thirteen-year-old girl and made her father pay him for it. Ramsay Bolton raped Lady Hornwood and starved her to death in a tower--she also chewed off her fingers. There are plenty more, but I'm not about to list all of them. It's insane to me and makes me not want to read these books anymore. I can't imagine why someone finds it necessary to include this much rape in a book meant to be a fantasy epic about fuckin' dragons and war. You created this world; you did not need to do any of this. I don't care about your garbage historical accuracy, bro. Stop raping everyone, my god.
I need a break from these books already.
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes