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Brideshead Revisited: The sacred & profane memories of Captain Charles Ryder
Evelyn Waugh
3.87 AVERAGE
2.83k reviews for:
Brideshead Revisited: The sacred & profane memories of Captain Charles Ryder
Evelyn Waugh
3.87 AVERAGE
It was good in some parts. I think some of the messages were a little unsubtle
To sort of summarize the plot of "Brideshead Revisited," without giving anything away, I would say that the story is about the trials and tribulations of aristocratic British people after World War I, but before World War II. It is a book written about friendship and faith. It is about the present meeting a rapidly fading past.
Waugh himself described his novel as, "deal(ing) with what is theologically termed 'the operation of Grace." Which means, evidently, that the book is about the call of love God makes to draw souls home to Himself.
On the positive side, "Brideshead Revisited" is well written and entertaining. Unfortunately, the book was also confusing for me as I know very little about the times it described and even less about the culture.
For example, I am not religious, so when the book goes into detail about Catholicism, I had no opinion one way or the other. From what I gathered, it seemed as though the book's author looked upon the Catholic religion with disdain. However, when I did some (brief) research, I found out that it seems as though Waugh had himself converted to Catholicism. Furthermore, I see there are some reviews on the Internet (and according to Waugh, for that matter) that suggest that the book's message is that everyone returns to God eventually; even those who have forsaken the faith. So, I don't feel comfortable stating that the book is either for or against the Catholic religion. But as I said, I'm a dirty heathen, so much of this religious debate was totally lost on me anyway.
Another thing about this book that threw me for a loop, was the fact that there appears to be a gay love affair as an important part of the plot--scores of pages of "Brideshead Revisited" are devoted to the detailed telling of this love affair. Imagine my consternation when later the author of the book has one of his characters "switch teams" and begin a romantic relationship with a woman.
That sort of thing just messes with me. The book is only so long, and I need consistency. Possibly the most troubling part of this sudden change of a character's sexuality, was that the woman the character starts dating resembles his former male lover in looks and behavior.
I don't think you normally go from dating a man, to instead dating a woman who looks a lot like the man you were dating. That's not how homosexuality works.
It should be noted that many people who have read this book do not believe that any of the characters were gay, with the exception of maybe one or two. Some people think the characters in "Brideshead Revisited" just happened to have a 'passionate' friendship. To which I say, "Yeah, right."
I don't understand how it is possible to interpret the character's relationship as anything other then one of a sexual nature.
They lounge at the lake and eat strawberries and drink wine, while they gaze at one another. They sunbathe in the nude together. One of the male characters goes hunting wearing a pink coat.
These guys are gay, and I can't understand why one of them goes straight later on in the book. It's totally inconsistent.
Besides these minor complaints that I have regarding the plot, I did enjoy this book. Sure, it was probably 50 or so pages too long, but that's all right. It was a fun read, and I'm glad to have read it.
Waugh himself described his novel as, "deal(ing) with what is theologically termed 'the operation of Grace." Which means, evidently, that the book is about the call of love God makes to draw souls home to Himself.
On the positive side, "Brideshead Revisited" is well written and entertaining. Unfortunately, the book was also confusing for me as I know very little about the times it described and even less about the culture.
For example, I am not religious, so when the book goes into detail about Catholicism, I had no opinion one way or the other. From what I gathered, it seemed as though the book's author looked upon the Catholic religion with disdain. However, when I did some (brief) research, I found out that it seems as though Waugh had himself converted to Catholicism. Furthermore, I see there are some reviews on the Internet (and according to Waugh, for that matter) that suggest that the book's message is that everyone returns to God eventually; even those who have forsaken the faith. So, I don't feel comfortable stating that the book is either for or against the Catholic religion. But as I said, I'm a dirty heathen, so much of this religious debate was totally lost on me anyway.
Another thing about this book that threw me for a loop, was the fact that there appears to be a gay love affair as an important part of the plot--scores of pages of "Brideshead Revisited" are devoted to the detailed telling of this love affair. Imagine my consternation when later the author of the book has one of his characters "switch teams" and begin a romantic relationship with a woman.
That sort of thing just messes with me. The book is only so long, and I need consistency. Possibly the most troubling part of this sudden change of a character's sexuality, was that the woman the character starts dating resembles his former male lover in looks and behavior.
I don't think you normally go from dating a man, to instead dating a woman who looks a lot like the man you were dating. That's not how homosexuality works.
It should be noted that many people who have read this book do not believe that any of the characters were gay, with the exception of maybe one or two. Some people think the characters in "Brideshead Revisited" just happened to have a 'passionate' friendship. To which I say, "Yeah, right."
I don't understand how it is possible to interpret the character's relationship as anything other then one of a sexual nature.
They lounge at the lake and eat strawberries and drink wine, while they gaze at one another. They sunbathe in the nude together. One of the male characters goes hunting wearing a pink coat.
These guys are gay, and I can't understand why one of them goes straight later on in the book. It's totally inconsistent.
Besides these minor complaints that I have regarding the plot, I did enjoy this book. Sure, it was probably 50 or so pages too long, but that's all right. It was a fun read, and I'm glad to have read it.
rtc when I watch all the podcasts and read the articles so I can actually understand this
dark
reflective
relaxing
sad
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Complicated
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
One of my goals this year was to read more classics. Somehow I managed to read three classics in chronological order by male, gay British authors centered on wealthy Britons: [b:Howards End|38374795|Howards End|E.M. Forster|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1518837828l/38374795._SX50_.jpg|1902726] (1910), [b:The Painted Veil|99664|The Painted Veil|W. Somerset Maugham|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1320421719l/99664._SY75_.jpg|1069201] (1925), and now [b:Brideshead Revisited|30933|Brideshead Revisited|Evelyn Waugh|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1438579340l/30933._SY75_.jpg|2952196] (1945). Brideshead, of course, has the most in common with Howard's End, with their examination of class and the books being love letters to the bucolic beauty and peacefulness of an English estate. Brideshead also relates to the Painted Veil with their unlikeable protagonists, although I would take Veil's Kitty over Brideshead's Charles Ryder any day.
I have heard that Waugh is an excellent humorist, and that his more comedic novels (i.e., [b:Scoop|30919|Scoop|Evelyn Waugh|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1416017359l/30919._SY75_.jpg|1001166]) are entertaining. His sly wit does come through in this novel - particularly by Charles Ryder's scene-stealing father, who launches a polite but persistent campaign to drive his only son out of the house when he feels he has overstayed his welcome during summer vacation. But most of the book was bogged down by Charles' mopey, self-centered pursuit of the two most magnetic Marchmain siblings.
Charles Ryder is a wealthy (but not aristocratic), directionless young man reading history at Oxford in the 1920s. He meets the reckless, alcoholic Lord Sebastian Flyte, when Sebastian vomits into his window after a drunken night out and then apologizes elegantly the next day. Their relationship continues as it began. Charles becomes obsessed with both Sebastian and his entire family and especially the family estate at Brideshead. Sebastian is the youngest son of the separated Lord and Lady Marchmain, and despises his mother for reasons I could never truly decipher (I would love a good analysis or lecture on this book). Sebastian descends deeper into alcoholism, and Charles enables him. They also may or may not be romantically involved, but since this was published in 1945 it is left open to interpretation instead of being explicit.
The first half of the novel is quite interesting, buoyed by fascinating supporting characters such as the openly gay and hedonistic Anthony Blanche, the mischievous but insightful youngest Marchmain, Cordelia, and the stuffy and stiff heir, Brideshead (Bridey). Although the trailer for the 2008 movie promised a bitter love triangle between Sebastian, Charles, and Sebastian's flippantly cool sister, Julia, this is entirely absent from the first half. Julia has absolutely no interest in a spindly, needy schoolboy like Charles.
The second half of the book is where this all fell apart for me. Charles was flawed in the first half, but he becomes absolutely despicable in the second half. It is about a decade later, and Charles has married and fathered two children. It is not his abhorrent behavior to his wife that is at issue- he can barely stand her, and openly begins an affair with Julia when they meet again while taking a passenger line across the Atlantic. It is his cold indifference to his own children that made me want to shove him into the ocean. He has never met his youngest child, who was born while he was taking a solo trip around Latin America for two years. He does not even remember her name. When he finally arrives back in England, he refuses to see his children so that he can continue to sleep with Julia. His wife begs him to see the children:
"You haven't seen Caroline."
"Will she change much in a week or two?"
"Darling, she changes every day."
"Then what's the point of seeing her now?"
Stone. Cold. Charles has never been able to see beyond his own desires and pursuit of "Beauty," whatever form that takes.
It was at this time I stopped caring about the book entirely. I did not care about Charles or Julia or their affair. Julia was also a far less interesting character than Sebastian, and the supporting characters I preferred mainly only made cameo appearances. I thought that the Prologue, where during World War II Charles is a melancholy, disillusioned loner, portended tragedy. It turns out that Charles absolutely deserves every sad ending he gets, and I was bolstered by the knowledge that his life would turn out poorly.
I have heard that Waugh is an excellent humorist, and that his more comedic novels (i.e., [b:Scoop|30919|Scoop|Evelyn Waugh|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1416017359l/30919._SY75_.jpg|1001166]) are entertaining. His sly wit does come through in this novel - particularly by Charles Ryder's scene-stealing father, who launches a polite but persistent campaign to drive his only son out of the house when he feels he has overstayed his welcome during summer vacation. But most of the book was bogged down by Charles' mopey, self-centered pursuit of the two most magnetic Marchmain siblings.
Charles Ryder is a wealthy (but not aristocratic), directionless young man reading history at Oxford in the 1920s. He meets the reckless, alcoholic Lord Sebastian Flyte, when Sebastian vomits into his window after a drunken night out and then apologizes elegantly the next day. Their relationship continues as it began. Charles becomes obsessed with both Sebastian and his entire family and especially the family estate at Brideshead. Sebastian is the youngest son of the separated Lord and Lady Marchmain, and despises his mother for reasons I could never truly decipher (I would love a good analysis or lecture on this book). Sebastian descends deeper into alcoholism, and Charles enables him. They also may or may not be romantically involved, but since this was published in 1945 it is left open to interpretation instead of being explicit.
The first half of the novel is quite interesting, buoyed by fascinating supporting characters such as the openly gay and hedonistic Anthony Blanche, the mischievous but insightful youngest Marchmain, Cordelia, and the stuffy and stiff heir, Brideshead (Bridey). Although the trailer for the 2008 movie promised a bitter love triangle between Sebastian, Charles, and Sebastian's flippantly cool sister, Julia, this is entirely absent from the first half. Julia has absolutely no interest in a spindly, needy schoolboy like Charles.
The second half of the book is where this all fell apart for me. Charles was flawed in the first half, but he becomes absolutely despicable in the second half. It is about a decade later, and Charles has married and fathered two children. It is not his abhorrent behavior to his wife that is at issue- he can barely stand her, and openly begins an affair with Julia when they meet again while taking a passenger line across the Atlantic. It is his cold indifference to his own children that made me want to shove him into the ocean. He has never met his youngest child, who was born while he was taking a solo trip around Latin America for two years. He does not even remember her name. When he finally arrives back in England, he refuses to see his children so that he can continue to sleep with Julia. His wife begs him to see the children:
"You haven't seen Caroline."
"Will she change much in a week or two?"
"Darling, she changes every day."
"Then what's the point of seeing her now?"
Stone. Cold. Charles has never been able to see beyond his own desires and pursuit of "Beauty," whatever form that takes.
It was at this time I stopped caring about the book entirely. I did not care about Charles or Julia or their affair. Julia was also a far less interesting character than Sebastian, and the supporting characters I preferred mainly only made cameo appearances. I thought that the Prologue, where during World War II Charles is a melancholy, disillusioned loner, portended tragedy. It turns out that Charles absolutely deserves every sad ending he gets, and I was bolstered by the knowledge that his life would turn out poorly.
emotional
mysterious
reflective
sad
fast-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
After all the Saltburn hubbub, I had to go back to this classic (which I hadn’t actually read). I found it delightful though the Oxford days and wartime reminiscing to be the most skilled plots, it breaks down for me with Charles and Celia, both in believability and character development. I love a good symbol and Waugh does some brilliant stuff with the Brideshead estate. I love a beautiful old English country home, and this novel made the house its own character.
(PS: this was an EXCELLENT listen! Jeremy Irons is the reader and all his voices were *chef’s kiss* but Anthony Blanche was a personal fave of mine.)
(PS: this was an EXCELLENT listen! Jeremy Irons is the reader and all his voices were *chef’s kiss* but Anthony Blanche was a personal fave of mine.)
Did NOT like this one at all! Characters obnoxious and remote. Droned on and on. I know it's considered really good, so I take all the blame if I missed something.
emotional
funny
informative
relaxing
sad
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes