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traveling_in_books's review against another edition
adventurous
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
bibliophilicwitch's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
An enjoyable read like any Valdemar book for me, but, while Changes isn't filler, it is moving the pieces on the game board for the next two books.
celebrin's review against another edition
1.0
*Sniff*
Ms Lackey, you were one of my absolute favorite authors. You still are. But this book did not work. I want to say that it was poorly edited. There are errors in timing that I caught. But the errors came from the source and that the editors are not the geeks I am--well that's not their fault.
*sniff*
I still spend wonderful times rereading the older trilogies, but, well, it's time to wave goodbye to Valdemar.
If you write another trilogy set in this wonderful world that you created--please, please make it worthy of you.
Ms Lackey, you were one of my absolute favorite authors. You still are. But this book did not work. I want to say that it was poorly edited. There are errors in timing that I caught. But the errors came from the source and that the editors are not the geeks I am--well that's not their fault.
*sniff*
I still spend wonderful times rereading the older trilogies, but, well, it's time to wave goodbye to Valdemar.
If you write another trilogy set in this wonderful world that you created--please, please make it worthy of you.
raerei's review against another edition
3.0
What better than to do on a blistering hot summer's night than read about the fantastical land of Valdemar....where the weather is blistering hot and to top it off this isn't a simple trilogy ending book since there are still questions to be answered, but most likely a double set of books like Winds and Storms. I doubt Lackey's breaking out of her one-shot or trilogy to do a quartet. So I probably have to wait 3 more years to finish this arc. Luckily I'm enjoying seeing Valdemar in Mag's time.
_misty_'s review against another edition
4.0
Spy games! So far the book with more action and intrigue.
There is some satisfying conclusion for a couple of minor characters and a couple of scenes that really made me cringe.
I loved the relationship blossoming between Amily and Mags and Lena and Bear , they are all just so cute!
There were also a couple of lines that made me think : no matter how much you love someone, sometimes you come to resent him. That doesn't make you a terrible person, just a human being with virtues and flaws. The important thing is acting on the virtues!
I'm wondering though why nobody is thinking about the obvious thing : Mags is a foreigner and so are the assassins. One of them recognized him and then they wanted to kidnap him. Isn't it obvious that they are all of the same country and it all goes back to Mags parents? He's probably the spitting image of his father or something like that.
There is some satisfying conclusion for a couple of minor characters and a couple of scenes that really made me cringe.
I loved the relationship blossoming between Amily and Mags and Lena and Bear , they are all just so cute!
There were also a couple of lines that made me think : no matter how much you love someone, sometimes you come to resent him. That doesn't make you a terrible person, just a human being with virtues and flaws. The important thing is acting on the virtues!
I'm wondering though why nobody is thinking about the obvious thing :
talreadsbooks's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
4.0
leons1701's review against another edition
4.0
I feel somewhat disappointed in the way this series has played out to date (If we're doing a series set at the beginning of the Collegium, we should get more of feel of beginnings somehow, not the exact same ideas with slight tweaks (Yes, Kirball, I'm looking at you as a prime offender). But I really like the characters (even if Mags is entirely too reminiscent of Skif at times) and the series is more than good enough to be enjoyable.
betsychadwell's review against another edition
3.0
This is the third installment of the Collegium Chronicles, about a young boy Chosen by a Companion of Valdemar while he was doing slave labor in a mine. It's set during the early years of Valdemar when the Collegium is just getting established. I enjoyed this as I do most books about Valdemar, but I do think this sub-series is taking a little long to come to a conclusion. There are vague hints about who Mags' parents might be so there will probably be at least one more installment, but I can't see where it's going. And I was disappointed that there is not more about the development of the Collegium.
bibliotropic's review against another edition
3.0
It took me a while to figure out how to review both of these books. They evoked such a strong reaction in me and I ranted about and debated the issue enough that in the end, I decided the best way to properly present my thoughts would be to review both of the books at once.
Intrigues and Changes are the second and third books of Mercedes Lackey’s Collegium Chronicles series, which started with Foundations. Here, we continue to follow Mags and his growth and development and training to be a Herald. We also see his friends, Bardic Trainee Lena, and Healer Trainee Bear. A new game called Kirball is being developed, partly as entertainment and partly as a war game for training Guards and Heralds, and Mags gets involved in the game and turns out to be a shining athlete. A heatwave has Haven in its grip. King’s Own Herald Nikolas is still training Mags as his protégé and eventual replacement as a spy and agent for the Crown. Meanwhile, foreign agents are trying to infiltrate Haven for reasons currently unclear, and they seem to have their sights set on Mags.
The reason I chose to review both of these books together is because on their own, they are largely lackluster, more filled with filler material than most Valdemar books tend to be, and are largely devoid of any real plot or point. The events could have (and in my opinion, should have) been condensed into one novel that would have been superb, but splitting it into 2 books just made it boring. At least 1/5 of both novels is taken up by descriptions of Mags playing Kirball, which is fun and fast-paced, but mostly takes up space, and I can’t even justify it by saying that it provides character development. It shows off how awesome Mags and Dallen are as a Trainee and Companion, but that could have been established in a much less verbose way, while actually advancing the plot.
So very little happens in these books. Book 2 involved Kirball, Mags trying to help Lena and Bear with their family issues, and a slight bit of development regarding the foreign infiltrators. Book 3 involves more Kirballs, Mags training with Nikolas, and some actual development regarding the foreign infiltrators as they make bold moves, some motives are revealed, and people try to get to the bottom of a mystery. Most of the important events of Book 2 could have been easily inserted into Book 3, and the only thing that would have really been lost would have been some long-winded arguments and some Kirball.
Aside from poor pacing issues, there is one section of Intrigues that bothers me on a very visceral level. In the midst of the heatwave, when tempers are running high and there’s a lot of emotional tension, Dallen and Mags end up in an accident and Dallen’s legs are broken. Mags is distraught. So Lena seeks him out and basically chews him out, calling him horrible and selfish and the kind of person who would kill the King (which is what Mags was suspected of due to the visions of Foreseers) if he would let something bad happen to Dallen. He snaps and shoots a couple of insults back at her. She runs off, and next Bear comes by, threatens to horsewhip Mags for upsetting Lena, again tells him that he must therefore be the kind of person who’d kill a King because he’s clearly so horrid. Mags takes this all to heart and runs away.
Now, the running away isn’t what bothered me. What bothered me was that when things cooled down and Mags returned and Dallen was recovering well, Mags apologizes for saying bad things to Lena… and Lena and Bear do not apologize to him. They basically handwave the whole thing by saying, “Yeah, well, tempers were frayed and you weren’t exactly wrong,” and then acting as though that was the extent of their obligations. No apologies for telling Mags he was a terrible person. No apologies for blaming Mags for Dallen’s accident. No apologies for saying, “I think everyone’s right and you’re plotting to murder our beloved monarch.” Not a thing. Which was tremendously out of character for both Lena and Bear, and at best came across like they were the kind of people who thought they didn’t need to apologize because Mags is a forgiving person anyway.
That part rankled, and seemed very poorly done.
As individual books, I could rate them 3 cups at best, since they contain so little of worth though they were admittedly somewhat entertaining. Put together, they complement each other nicely, if somewhat rambling. Had these books been trimmed and tightened and a lot of the extraneous scenes deleted, the finished product could easily have been one of my favourite Valdemar novels, and well worth the rating of 4 cups that I am generously giving right now. Lackey’s books often have a great deal of slow development that leads to one main action scene very near the end, but I can’t recall any other book of hers that spends so much time doing so very little, and I can only imagine how many people didn’t even continue on past the second book of the series for this reason. Honestly, most people could skip right past that one and move right to the third book without missing anything, and anything vital tends to get recapped in short order anyway.
Intrigues and Changes are the second and third books of Mercedes Lackey’s Collegium Chronicles series, which started with Foundations. Here, we continue to follow Mags and his growth and development and training to be a Herald. We also see his friends, Bardic Trainee Lena, and Healer Trainee Bear. A new game called Kirball is being developed, partly as entertainment and partly as a war game for training Guards and Heralds, and Mags gets involved in the game and turns out to be a shining athlete. A heatwave has Haven in its grip. King’s Own Herald Nikolas is still training Mags as his protégé and eventual replacement as a spy and agent for the Crown. Meanwhile, foreign agents are trying to infiltrate Haven for reasons currently unclear, and they seem to have their sights set on Mags.
The reason I chose to review both of these books together is because on their own, they are largely lackluster, more filled with filler material than most Valdemar books tend to be, and are largely devoid of any real plot or point. The events could have (and in my opinion, should have) been condensed into one novel that would have been superb, but splitting it into 2 books just made it boring. At least 1/5 of both novels is taken up by descriptions of Mags playing Kirball, which is fun and fast-paced, but mostly takes up space, and I can’t even justify it by saying that it provides character development. It shows off how awesome Mags and Dallen are as a Trainee and Companion, but that could have been established in a much less verbose way, while actually advancing the plot.
So very little happens in these books. Book 2 involved Kirball, Mags trying to help Lena and Bear with their family issues, and a slight bit of development regarding the foreign infiltrators. Book 3 involves more Kirballs, Mags training with Nikolas, and some actual development regarding the foreign infiltrators as they make bold moves, some motives are revealed, and people try to get to the bottom of a mystery. Most of the important events of Book 2 could have been easily inserted into Book 3, and the only thing that would have really been lost would have been some long-winded arguments and some Kirball.
Aside from poor pacing issues, there is one section of Intrigues that bothers me on a very visceral level. In the midst of the heatwave, when tempers are running high and there’s a lot of emotional tension, Dallen and Mags end up in an accident and Dallen’s legs are broken. Mags is distraught. So Lena seeks him out and basically chews him out, calling him horrible and selfish and the kind of person who would kill the King (which is what Mags was suspected of due to the visions of Foreseers) if he would let something bad happen to Dallen. He snaps and shoots a couple of insults back at her. She runs off, and next Bear comes by, threatens to horsewhip Mags for upsetting Lena, again tells him that he must therefore be the kind of person who’d kill a King because he’s clearly so horrid. Mags takes this all to heart and runs away.
Now, the running away isn’t what bothered me. What bothered me was that when things cooled down and Mags returned and Dallen was recovering well, Mags apologizes for saying bad things to Lena… and Lena and Bear do not apologize to him. They basically handwave the whole thing by saying, “Yeah, well, tempers were frayed and you weren’t exactly wrong,” and then acting as though that was the extent of their obligations. No apologies for telling Mags he was a terrible person. No apologies for blaming Mags for Dallen’s accident. No apologies for saying, “I think everyone’s right and you’re plotting to murder our beloved monarch.” Not a thing. Which was tremendously out of character for both Lena and Bear, and at best came across like they were the kind of people who thought they didn’t need to apologize because Mags is a forgiving person anyway.
That part rankled, and seemed very poorly done.
As individual books, I could rate them 3 cups at best, since they contain so little of worth though they were admittedly somewhat entertaining. Put together, they complement each other nicely, if somewhat rambling. Had these books been trimmed and tightened and a lot of the extraneous scenes deleted, the finished product could easily have been one of my favourite Valdemar novels, and well worth the rating of 4 cups that I am generously giving right now. Lackey’s books often have a great deal of slow development that leads to one main action scene very near the end, but I can’t recall any other book of hers that spends so much time doing so very little, and I can only imagine how many people didn’t even continue on past the second book of the series for this reason. Honestly, most people could skip right past that one and move right to the third book without missing anything, and anything vital tends to get recapped in short order anyway.
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