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4.02 AVERAGE
4.02 AVERAGE
‘Your people live to fight while mine fight to live.’
This is the second book in a projected series (The Demon War). I thoroughly enjoyed the first book – ‘The Painted Man’ (UK and Australia); ‘The Warded Man’ (USA) - and have been eagerly awaiting this one. I was not disappointed.
This instalment does not start where ‘The Painted Man’ finishes. Instead, the book opens with Jardir (who played a role in the first book), and we follow his journey from childhood to adulthood. This provides a detailed look at Krasian customs and culture and succeeds in bringing Krasia to life.
Once the desert world of Krasia is described, with Jardir considered to be the Deliverer (Shar’ Darma Ka), the story widens out to encompass the green-lands where Arlen Bales as The Painted Man is considered to be the Deliverer and returns to the present, and to follow the journeys of a number of different characters including Jardir, Arlen, Leesha, Rojer and Renna.
Two different men considered to be the Deliverer, each representing different cultures but with one common enemy: the corelings. Humanity is running out of time: the population is dwindling and the demons are growing in number, intelligence and strength. In this complex world, both the green-landers and the desert people possess critical knowledge and skills: will they be able to work together? Is there really a single Deliverer? If so, who is it and how will they save the world?
‘Monsters do not always hide in the shadows.’
In some ways I enjoyed this book better than ‘The Warded Man’. Even though I wanted to read more about Arlen Bales, this instalment more clearly establishes the world in which the battle for survival will be fought. I’m now looking forward to the third book.
Jennifer Cameron-Smith
This is the second book in a projected series (The Demon War). I thoroughly enjoyed the first book – ‘The Painted Man’ (UK and Australia); ‘The Warded Man’ (USA) - and have been eagerly awaiting this one. I was not disappointed.
This instalment does not start where ‘The Painted Man’ finishes. Instead, the book opens with Jardir (who played a role in the first book), and we follow his journey from childhood to adulthood. This provides a detailed look at Krasian customs and culture and succeeds in bringing Krasia to life.
Once the desert world of Krasia is described, with Jardir considered to be the Deliverer (Shar’ Darma Ka), the story widens out to encompass the green-lands where Arlen Bales as The Painted Man is considered to be the Deliverer and returns to the present, and to follow the journeys of a number of different characters including Jardir, Arlen, Leesha, Rojer and Renna.
Two different men considered to be the Deliverer, each representing different cultures but with one common enemy: the corelings. Humanity is running out of time: the population is dwindling and the demons are growing in number, intelligence and strength. In this complex world, both the green-landers and the desert people possess critical knowledge and skills: will they be able to work together? Is there really a single Deliverer? If so, who is it and how will they save the world?
‘Monsters do not always hide in the shadows.’
In some ways I enjoyed this book better than ‘The Warded Man’. Even though I wanted to read more about Arlen Bales, this instalment more clearly establishes the world in which the battle for survival will be fought. I’m now looking forward to the third book.
Jennifer Cameron-Smith
Thought I wasn't going to like this one, considering that the first 300 pages wasn't even our main character. But I actually really enjoyed learning about the Krasian culture, Jardir, Abban, and Inevera. Overall, the book was an entertaining sequel and just as enjoyable as the first.
I went back and forth on whether this is a 4-star or 5-star book. There were some things that felt forced to me, such as the relationship between Leesha and her mother Elona and some inconsistent behavior by Ahmann Jardir, but I've decided those were minor stumbles in an otherwise compulsively-readable book. This damn thing kept me up late a few nights in a row, because I kept wanting to see what the next page would bring.
The introduction of new elements such as new corelings keeps the story fresh, and the fleshing-out of secondary (and even tertiary) characters from the first book really helped ground the story, especially when one near-throwaway character from The Warded Man becomes what is decidedly going to be a major character in the third book.
I quite like the over-arching tale that's going on here, and even though books and movies that take place in the Mid-East (or their Fantasy/Science Fiction analogues) generally bore me, this book is one of the ones that works for me.
At first the novel echoes the structure of the first one, showing Jardir and Abban growing up the same way Warded showed Arlen, Leesha and Rojer coming of age. But once it comes to the point where Arlen's journey from the first book intersects the lives of Jardir and Abban, we get to see events that took place in Krasia from the other point of view. That worked well in Scalzi's Zoe's Tale, and it is equally well-employed here.
Then once everything is set up, things get off to a powerful, galloping headlong rush, with quite a few unexpected twists and turns. I'm not entirely sure I buy some of the choices the people in Deliverer's Hollow made, but I'm willing to cut Brett some slack because they were at least interesting choices. Also, given what he did to fill in the backstories of the characters here, I've some faith that he'll have everything sorted when the 3rd book comes out. It's a bummer that I now have to wait nearly a year for the next installment.
The introduction of new elements such as new corelings keeps the story fresh, and the fleshing-out of secondary (and even tertiary) characters from the first book really helped ground the story, especially when one near-throwaway character from The Warded Man becomes what is decidedly going to be a major character in the third book.
I quite like the over-arching tale that's going on here, and even though books and movies that take place in the Mid-East (or their Fantasy/Science Fiction analogues) generally bore me, this book is one of the ones that works for me.
At first the novel echoes the structure of the first one, showing Jardir and Abban growing up the same way Warded showed Arlen, Leesha and Rojer coming of age. But once it comes to the point where Arlen's journey from the first book intersects the lives of Jardir and Abban, we get to see events that took place in Krasia from the other point of view. That worked well in Scalzi's Zoe's Tale, and it is equally well-employed here.
Then once everything is set up, things get off to a powerful, galloping headlong rush, with quite a few unexpected twists and turns. I'm not entirely sure I buy some of the choices the people in Deliverer's Hollow made, but I'm willing to cut Brett some slack because they were at least interesting choices. Also, given what he did to fill in the backstories of the characters here, I've some faith that he'll have everything sorted when the 3rd book comes out. It's a bummer that I now have to wait nearly a year for the next installment.
Zaman Çarkı serisi ile tanışma şerefine henüz nail olamadığım için ilk göz ağrım Tolkien ve Middle Earth her zaman kalbimin baş köşesinde durur, bu kaide ne zaman değişir- daha doğrusu değişir mi bilmiyorum.
İşte İblis Döngüsü serisi LOTR sevdamın bittiği yerde başlıyor sanırım.
Pekala Sanderson canımdır, ciğerimdir. Rothfuss, Anthony Ryan, Terry Brooks ve kitaplarını severek okuduğum yüzlerce yazar bir yana, İblis Döngüsü serisi bir yana.
ÇÜNKÜ BU NE MÜKEMMEL KARAKTERLER, NE GÜZEL BİR DÜNYA, NASIL BAŞARILI BİR YAZIM TARZI YA!
Uzun uzadıya yorum yapacak kadar sağlıklı düşünemiyorum şuan, gözümde buralar hep pide çünkü. Soğuk su, kahve, kahve, KAHVE!
Bu kafa yorum kafası değil çocuklar, ben gidiyorum.
Özetlemem gerekirse: ÇOK GÜZELDİ BE! VALLA BAK.
Çevirmen ağabey, ayrıca bizimlasın. <3 İçten teşekkürlerimi sunuyorum, emeğine sağlık.
*Güzeldi derken, bazı nefret ettiğim sahneler olmadı değil, kitapta gereğinden fazla açık sahne vardı. Bu tarz sahneleri fantastik kitaplara hiçbir zaman yakıştırmadığım gibi, gereksizde buluyorum. Gidişata zarar vermemişti, yine de olmasa daha güzel olurdu diye düşünüyorum.
İşte İblis Döngüsü serisi LOTR sevdamın bittiği yerde başlıyor sanırım.
Pekala Sanderson canımdır, ciğerimdir. Rothfuss, Anthony Ryan, Terry Brooks ve kitaplarını severek okuduğum yüzlerce yazar bir yana, İblis Döngüsü serisi bir yana.
ÇÜNKÜ BU NE MÜKEMMEL KARAKTERLER, NE GÜZEL BİR DÜNYA, NASIL BAŞARILI BİR YAZIM TARZI YA!
Uzun uzadıya yorum yapacak kadar sağlıklı düşünemiyorum şuan, gözümde buralar hep pide çünkü. Soğuk su, kahve, kahve, KAHVE!
Bu kafa yorum kafası değil çocuklar, ben gidiyorum.
Özetlemem gerekirse: ÇOK GÜZELDİ BE! VALLA BAK.
Çevirmen ağabey, ayrıca bizimlasın. <3 İçten teşekkürlerimi sunuyorum, emeğine sağlık.
*Güzeldi derken, bazı nefret ettiğim sahneler olmadı değil, kitapta gereğinden fazla açık sahne vardı. Bu tarz sahneleri fantastik kitaplara hiçbir zaman yakıştırmadığım gibi, gereksizde buluyorum. Gidişata zarar vermemişti, yine de olmasa daha güzel olurdu diye düşünüyorum.
adventurous
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
I had some issues with pacing in this book, and I really don't like that sexual assault (especially against men) is treated as a punishment. Really, there's way too much sexual assault in the whole series, and it certainly reads as unnecessary and gratuitous, which is gross. Also, this author clearly doesn't know how to write women, because Leesha (who was SO interesting and had depth in the first book) was reduced to a love interest and obsessed with love/sex/jealousy. Out of character much?
La prima parte molto bella, benché l'introduzione alla nuova cultura mi abbia fatto storcere il naso diverse volte. Stupri, violenza su bambini e tante altre cose che davvero, forse ci voleva un trigger warning a inizio volume.
Diametralmente opposto al primo, che sembrava incentrarsi sulla caratterizzazione dei personaggi (e per questo mi era piaciuto così tanto), questo secondo volume per me è stata una grande delusione, tanto da abbandonarlo a quasi fine lettura, facendomi raccontare il poco mancante da chi lo aveva già letto. Vi giuro, ero piena. Non ce la facevo più ad andare avanti.
Ho sopportato diverse stronzate nel corso della lettura, compresi errori osceni, come per esempio una trasfusione di sangue, segue il dialogo:
"Gli serve un donatore di sangue"
"Ci sono io"
"Controlla che sia dello stesso tipo"
In un'ambientazione palesemente medievale, dove qualsiasi innovazione tecnologica è pressoché inesistente... a quanto pare loro riescono a controllare di che tipo sia il sangue. Non che sia impossibile, essendo un'ambientazione inventata, ma qui palesemente le innovazioni non arrivano fino a questo punto.
Ma questa è solo la prima delle tante cadute di stile in questo romanzo, comprese le accoppiate amorose a fine volume che non mi hanno fatto bestemmiare, ma quasi. Personaggi che fino a quattro pagine prima erano del tutto contrari ad intraprendere una relazione amorosa e poi... bam, amore, sposiamoci, sesso evviva. Il tutto nel giro di una manciata di pagine. In quel momento ho alzato le mani al cielo e ho detto "okay, basta, per me è finita qua".
Le tre stelle sono fondamentalmente per l'80% del libro, che in alcuni capitoli è riuscito pure a strapparmi due lacrime di commozione. No, non andrò avanti con la serie al momento. Ho bisogno di una pausa.
Diametralmente opposto al primo, che sembrava incentrarsi sulla caratterizzazione dei personaggi (e per questo mi era piaciuto così tanto), questo secondo volume per me è stata una grande delusione, tanto da abbandonarlo a quasi fine lettura, facendomi raccontare il poco mancante da chi lo aveva già letto. Vi giuro, ero piena. Non ce la facevo più ad andare avanti.
Ho sopportato diverse stronzate nel corso della lettura, compresi errori osceni, come per esempio una trasfusione di sangue, segue il dialogo:
"Gli serve un donatore di sangue"
"Ci sono io"
"Controlla che sia dello stesso tipo"
In un'ambientazione palesemente medievale, dove qualsiasi innovazione tecnologica è pressoché inesistente... a quanto pare loro riescono a controllare di che tipo sia il sangue. Non che sia impossibile, essendo un'ambientazione inventata, ma qui palesemente le innovazioni non arrivano fino a questo punto.
Ma questa è solo la prima delle tante cadute di stile in questo romanzo, comprese le accoppiate amorose a fine volume che non mi hanno fatto bestemmiare, ma quasi. Personaggi che fino a quattro pagine prima erano del tutto contrari ad intraprendere una relazione amorosa e poi... bam, amore, sposiamoci, sesso evviva. Il tutto nel giro di una manciata di pagine. In quel momento ho alzato le mani al cielo e ho detto "okay, basta, per me è finita qua".
Le tre stelle sono fondamentalmente per l'80% del libro, che in alcuni capitoli è riuscito pure a strapparmi due lacrime di commozione. No, non andrò avanti con la serie al momento. Ho bisogno di una pausa.
The writing style was really not for me, so by the end I was just exhausted. Probably won't read/listen to the next book in the series.