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The Damned by Joris-Karl Huysmans, Terry Hale

danielad's review against another edition

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4.0

"'What a strange period, the Middle Ages! Of that there can be no doubt,' he continued, lighting a cigarette. 'Some people view it as a sort of utopia and for others it is without a single redeeming quality; there is nothing in between; either the nadir of ignorance and darkness, according to the twaddle put about by the atheists and university students; or a dolorous and exquisite era, as artists and religious scholars have maintained.'" (102)

As others have said in earlier reviews, this is admittedly, a difficult read. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone for simple 'casual reading'. And yet the prose is beautiful, especially the culinary descriptions. The conversations at the Carhaix's are also excellent.

"'. . . this century does not give a fig for the coming of Christ; it adulterates the supernatural and vomits over the other-worldly. How can you have hope in the future under such circumstances? How can you possibly believe that they will be clean and decent, these offspring of our fetid bourgeoisie and the vile times in which we live? Brought up in conditions such as these, what will become of them, what will life make of them?'
     'They will turn out,' replied Durtal, 'just the same as their parents. They will stuff their guts with food and evacuate their souls through their bowels.'" (264-265)

msgtdameron's review against another edition

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mysterious medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5

The Damned is not so much a book about falling into Satans way's or his grasp, but is actually a political statement about France over all and Paris in particular in1891.  A statement about the corruption of both the political system and the Catholic Church that was all around Huysman.  Yes the black mass and the sex scenes all make for a lot of titilation but the real meat of the work I done in the bell tower of The Church of Saint-Sulpice in the bell ringers, Carhaix, rooms.  The discussion is about Naturalism v Socialism v Democracy v Oligarism v Theocracy v Satanism and how all these ideas for social order are competing against each other.   How Satanism competes with the Church and the Church with Satan.  Communism in the form of the Commune of 1849  and later Socialist ideas fights against Democracy and how all are influenced by the biggest  idea, the Oligarch. 

 A note on our main players  Durtal is our narrator and it is his story of a winter in Paris.  Carhaix is a extremely pious Catholic who loves his bells more than his wife, but is open enough to listen to all these new ideas about politics and how the Church affects Politics and Politics the Church.  des Hermies is a doctor who believes in science but also what his eyes see.  And if his eyes see a miracles then he is willing to call it such.  He has seen several miracles and does not disregard them as coming from God through well respected priests.  des Hermies also knows of bad priests who magically attack the good priests and conduct black masses.  Our final character is Madame Chantelouve AKA Hyacinth  a sensualist who also takes part in the Black Mass and who Durtal has an affair with.  Her husband is fully aware of the affair and probably aware of her attendance at Black Masses, but chooses to do nothing.   

Moving forward.  Durtal is writing a history and needs information on the black mass.  He is already deep into his affair.  He suspects that Hyacinth has access to a black mass for him to observe and get the back ground he needs for his book.  All this is going on as Durtal, des Hermies and the alchemist Gevingey dine in Carhaix's apartment discussing the role of the Church and it's corruption in the modern political world.

This black mass is why I say this is really a political work.  The high Satan priest, Doche, is appropriately undressed for the mass but he finishes by a tirade against Christ and by extension the Catholic Church.  He screams 
            "Thou has forgotten the poverty thou didst preach!  Thou art the favorite vessel of the banks and financial institutions!  Thou hast seen the weak crushed beneath the weight of capital!  Thou hast heard the death rattle of the timid, weak with hunger, of women disembowelled for a crust of bread, and Thou has caused the Chancery of Thy Simonists, thy traveling salesmen of religion and Thy Pope to answer for thy Failure and dilatory excuses and evasive promises!  Thou art nought but a charlatan in a cassock, the God of Big Business."
There are several other paragraphs where God/Christ are called to account for their failures.  And where the catholic church are called to account for its' failure.  Although Protestants are not the center of this work they are mentioned as those people across the seas and just as culpable as the Catholics.  

There is Durtals' book.  It is a biography of The Marechal de Raid Gilles, Joan of Arc's number two and better known as Blue Beard.  Also tried by temporal and ecclesiastical courts in the 15th century and confessed to more than 800 child deaths by his own hand.  At least that is what Huysman says

That in a nutshell is the climbing action and the crisis explained.  But the falling action is even a deeper attack on the politics of France.  The attack takes the shape of saying that France is in a war between the Satanists who are working for a more just state, a state of brother hood and love.  A more sensualist and communal state than a state built to suppress the worker and keep him and the middle class in check to Big Business.  While the state is looking to use the Church to stop the Satanist from becoming strong enough to attack Big Business and win over the State.  The State needs to hold on to its power at all costs.

The End is election day and the States sponsored man win Paris.  It is the last scene we see with Durtal walking away fro Carhixs room shaking his head and wondering we don't know what?  Is he thinking that with out the lewd sex acts that politically the Satanists are correct?  Is he so disgusted by the Satanic ritual that he does not see the politics of the Satanist.  Does he not care and just wish to live in Carhaixs apartment after he dies and ring the bells to be away from the crowd of fools on the street?  Were left to wonder.

I will say that the current political situation in America today is not far off from Doches denouncement of the Catholic Church.  Do not our evangelical   preachers try to keep us sweet to Big Business?  Are not our politicians in debt to and in bed with Big Business?  Is not the GOP in bed with and defiling teenagers, Mat Getze, all while bemoaning the fall of American morals, do they not want to keep women in bondage by not allowing the best medical treatment for women, do they not let our children get slaughtered by machines of mass death designed for the battlefield.  Have our elected officials allowed our natural wonders to be raped for the NEW god, the dollar, and in doing so left our children and grandchildren to suffer and die under a ever increasing hot world.  Do they not skim money off Government contracts to fill their own off shore accounts, Greg Abbot.  DO they not let our children die of perfectly curable diseases. Mumps, Measles, Rubella, flu, and covid all have vaccines to keep our children safe.  I ask who is worse Blue Beard or the GOP?

reasie's review against another edition

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3.0

Ah, nothing like a Victorian French novel about Satanism! The book surprised me by opening up mid-scene, mid-argument, two men arguing about literature and whether the realists are all they're cracked up to be. I suppose this was the author telling us his stance on writing before we got into his book, having already been hooked by the promise of tasty tasty Satanism.

They griped about Stendhal and George Sand and I found myself more interested in their conversation than most readers likely would be, having read both authors recently. When you pick and choose around a whole history of writing, you forget who is a contemporary to whom. What I liked best about this book were those moments where it was about the contemporary culture - though the author never stops banging on about how awful 'modern times' are. LOL. As they have ever said, right? Oh that awful Eiffel Tower, I'm sure they'll tear that eyesore down soon.

There are passages eulogizing the good, pure, high-minded Catholicism of the Middle Ages, and all I can say about that is that the author (and his characters) obviously have not read that much primary source material from the middle ages..

The promised Satanism itself is definitely disturbing, and takes the form of snatches of the main character's work on a biography of a 15th century madman and his investigations into promised Satanism in his contemporary Paris.

There is weirdness aplenty, and a few small moments of realism to make you hope for more of that and less of the long dialogs which are really monologues punctuated with "And why is that?" questions. :P The narrator has a cat who does cute cat things. He has an affair with a married woman who seems unhinged. He contemplates raping her cheerfully and then is appalled by the grossness of learning that she actually WANTS to have sex. The misogyny is... wow. I would hope the author is pointing this out, but I'm afraid the narrator is really an author-replacement and no, he does not realize how evil he's being. Still, it wasn't dull.

jessrock's review against another edition

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2.0

This is an awful lot of book for such a very thin storyline. Written and set in the late 1800s, Là-Bas focuses on the writer Durtal, an atheist who admires but finds himself unable to believe in Catholicism. Durtal is writing a book about Gilles de Rais, a friend of Joan of Arc who who later became a Satanist and sodomized and murdered children. Over many dinners and conversations with his friends Des Hermies and Carhaix, Durtal comes to believe that what his book is lacking is something to relate his 15th-century history to the present day - namely, Durtal feels he needs to learn about contemporary Satanism.

Much of the book is taken up with academic discussions about religion and philosophy. Even the presumably scandalizing sections about de Rais's excesses are told with a historian's narration, and they are brief and rare - so while there are some unsettling passages in the book, the overall feeling manages to be tedious. Even the famous description of the Black Mass toward the end of the book is interrupted before it can become too uncomfortable - Durtal flees partway through.

Overall, I was surprised at how the book managed to have a mostly Catholic feel to it in spite of being about an atheist researching a Satanist. Even the priest who conducts the Black Mass clearly believes deeply in Catholicism and has only turned to Satanism out of anger that the world has been waiting too long for the Second Coming. It was no surprise, then, to learn that Huysmans himself struggled with his disbelief and returned to Catholicism just a few years after writing Là-Bas.

This is very much a novel of ideas, and many of the ideas are interesting, but it's very long for the slim amount of ground it actually covers. I appreciate what Huysmans was doing in this novel, but it felt like a slog to get through.

trewqh's review against another edition

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challenging dark mysterious tense slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.25

pearlessness's review against another edition

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dark mysterious medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

3.5

spacestationtrustfund's review against another edition

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3.0

« Le mal d'âmes », comme disait Mallarmé, à la fin du siècle, et « le bizarre attardement, au Paris actuel, de la démonialité ». Gilles de Rais mène le bal par l'intermédiaire d'un historien, Durtal, assoiffé de surnaturel et dont l'initiation sera faite par l'épouse hystérique et perverse d'un grand écrivain catholique. Messes noires et invocations sataniques s'ensuivent, qu'organise un prêtre excommunié, le chanoine Docre, qui s'est fait tracer sur la plante des pieds l'image de la croix afin de pouvoir la piétiner constamment et dont les plus innocents plaisirs sont de nourrir les souris blanches avec des hosties consacrées. Dans ce monde du sabbat et du blasphème, la raison ne survit que réfugiée dans une tour de Saint-Sulpice, où la femme du sonneur de cloches mitonne à l'intention des rares rescapés de divins pot-au-feu.

_b_t_h_'s review against another edition

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3.0

A very slow boil that never really reaches any sort of climax, and even what could be considered one is cut rather short, but a good book nonetheless. The gory details of Gilles de Rais' murders are nice too, but nothing new if you've read Bataille's "The Trial of Gilles de Rais". Encylopedic knowledge of Black Mass, middle-ages Catholicism, French lit, & a hatred for Modernism abound.

stiankj's review against another edition

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5.0

Another brilliant masterpiece by one of my new favourite authors.

msgtdameron's review against another edition

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dark mysterious reflective fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.25

The Damned is not so much a book about falling into Satans way's or his grasp, but is actually a political statement about France over all and Paris in particular in1891.  A statement about the corruption of both the political system and the Catholic Church that was all around Huysman.  Yes the black mass and the sex scenes all make for a lot of titilation but the real meat of the work I done in the bell tower of The Church of Saint-Sulpice in the bell ringers, Carhaix, rooms.  The discussion is about Naturalism v Socialism v Democracy v Oligarism v Theocracy v Satanism and how all these ideas for social order are competing against each other.   How Satanism competes with the Church and the Church with Satan.  Communism in the form of the Commune of 1849  and later Socialist ideas fights against Democracy and how all are influenced by the biggest  idea, the Oligarch. 

 A note on our main players  Durtal is our narrator and it is his story of a winter in Paris.  Carhaix is a extremely pious Catholic who loves his bells more than his wife, but is open enough to listen to all these new ideas about politics and how the Church affects Politics and Politics the Church.  des Hermies is a doctor who believes in science but also what his eyes see.  And if his eyes see a miracles then he is willing to call it such.  He has seen several miracles and does not disregard them as coming from God through well respected priests.  des Hermies also knows of bad priests who magically attack the good priests and conduct black masses.  Our final character is Madame Chantelouve AKA Hyacinth  a sensualist who also takes part in the Black Mass and who Durtal has an affair with.  Her husband is fully aware of the affair and probably aware of her attendance at Black Masses, but chooses to do nothing.   

Moving forward.  Durtal is writing a history and needs information on the black mass.  He is already deep into his affair.  He suspects that Hyacinth has access to a black mass for him to observe and get the back ground he needs for his book.  All this is going on as Durtal, des Hermies and the alchemist Gevingey dine in Carhaix's apartment discussing the role of the Church and it's corruption in the modern political world.

This black mass is why I say this is really a political work.  The high Satan priest, Doche, is appropriately undressed for the mass but he finishes by a tirade against Christ and by extension the Catholic Church.  He screams 
            "Thou has forgotten the poverty thou didst preach!  Thou art the favorite vessel of the banks and financial institutions!  Thou hast seen the weak crushed beneath the weight of capital!  Thou hast heard the death rattle of the timid, weak with hunger, of women disembowelled for a crust of bread, and Thou has caused the Chancery of Thy Simonists, thy traveling salesmen of religion and Thy Pope to answer for thy Failure and dilatory excuses and evasive promises!  Thou art nought but a charlatan in a cassock, the God of Big Business."
There are several other paragraphs where God/Christ are called to account for their failures.  And where the catholic church are called to account for its' failure.  Although Protestants are not the center of this work they are mentioned as those people across the seas and just as culpable as the Catholics.  

There is Durtals' book.  It is a biography of The Marechal de Raid Gilles, Joan of Arc's number two and better known as Blue Beard.  Also tried by temporal and ecclesiastical courts in the 15th century and confessed to more than 800 child deaths by his own hand.  At least that is what Huysman says

That in a nutshell is the climbing action and the crisis explained.  But the falling action is even a deeper attack on the politics of France.  The attack takes the shape of saying that France is in a war between the Satanists who are working for a more just state, a state of brother hood and love.  A more sensualist and communal state than a state built to suppress the worker and keep him and the middle class in check to Big Business.  While the state is looking to use the Church to stop the Satanist from becoming strong enough to attack Big Business and win over the State.  The State needs to hold on to its power at all costs.

The End is election day and the States sponsored man win Paris.  It is the last scene we see with Durtal walking away fro Carhixs room shaking his head and wondering we don't know what?  Is he thinking that with out the lewd sex acts that politically the Satanists are correct?  Is he so disgusted by the Satanic ritual that he does not see the politics of the Satanist.  Does he not care and just wish to live in Carhaixs apartment after he dies and ring the bells to be away from the crowd of fools on the street?  Were left to wonder.

I will say that the current political situation in America today is not far off from Doches denouncement of the Catholic Church.  Do not our evangelical   preachers try to keep us sweet to Big Business?  Are not our politicians in debt to and in bed with Big Business?  Is not the GOP in bed with and defiling teenagers, Mat Getze, all while bemoaning the fall of American morals, do they not want to keep women in bondage by not allowing the best medical treatment for women, do they not let our children get slaughtered by machines of mass death designed for the battlefield.  Have our elected officials allowed our natural wonders to be raped for the NEW god, the dollar, and in doing so left our children and grandchildren to suffer and die under a ever increasing hot world.  Do they not skim money off Government contracts to fill their own off shore accounts, Greg Abbot.  DO they not let our children die of perfectly curable diseases. Mumps, Measles, Rubella, flu, and covid all have vaccines to keep our children safe.  I ask who is worse Blue Beard or the GOP?