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Moses and Monotheism by Sigmund Freud, Katherine Jones

blueyorkie's review against another edition

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3.0

Historical quest for the origin of religion? Inner search for meaning in belief? This book opens up uncertain hypotheses and undoubtedly partial analogies, which challenge. First assertion: Moses was Egyptian, and he imposed on foreigners, the Jews, a religion then prohibited in Egypt, that of Akhenaton, the first manifestation of monotheism. Of course, the historian is perplexed. Let's admit. What does it change? Then the Jews revolt and kill Moses. The event and the religion of the assassinated chief repress for a specific time to reappear, modified under the identity of Yahweh, another god, cruel, who became the protector and the punisher of the Jewish people. To explain this, it invokes psychoanalysis, constantly making questionable back and forth between individual and the mass, and sees in the awe and fear of a single god the return of those of the father. Primitive, yet murdered, like Moses. In Christianity, he also sees the sacrifice of the murderous son who takes the father's place. Convincing? Impression of hesitation, as if this could have some likelihood, but as if it were also wandering vaguely, a theory, like psychoanalysis, both difficult to understand and with no other basis than the quicksands of the unconscious, ancient history and religious beliefs.

batoolm's review against another edition

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dark informative reflective sad tense medium-paced

3.0

exdebris's review against another edition

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funny informative inspiring medium-paced

5.0

koohesefid's review against another edition

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4.0

کتاب موضوع جالبی داره و سوالات خوبی رو می‌تونه توی ذهن ایجاد کنه ولی الزاما داستانی که فروید از موسی و سیر تحول یکتاپرستی بیان می‌کنه داستان بی نقصی نیست و همونطور که خود فروید هم معترف هست داده‌های تاریخی ای که نظریات فروید بر اون‌ها بنا شده محل اشکال هست. من متن آلمانی رو با دو ترجمه‌ی فارسی تا حدی مقایسه کردم و به نظرم ترجمه‌ی صالح نجفی خوبه واقعا.

eastside's review against another edition

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informative reflective medium-paced

3.25

lilyevansgf's review against another edition

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dark informative slow-paced

treacherous's review against another edition

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1.0

Not a fan of Freud in general, but this book ... geez.

arquero's review against another edition

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3.0

Too pretentious.

The I & II parts were acceptably reasonable. But then it went on back to the hypothesis with psycho staff and the mess started.

From Oedipus complex through person-2-group extrapolation and down to nationwide neurosis aka religion. A highly doubtful journey worth the author's controversial fame.

rashed's review against another edition

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3.0

فرويد, هُنا يحاول ان يظهر لنا ان موسى متأثر بفرعون مصري "اخناتون" كان قد انشق عن النسق الديني الفرعوني الذي يؤمن بتعدد الآلهة, لما تستمر ديانة اخناتون طويلاً فقد تم قمعها خلال فترة قصيرة, فديانة تؤمن بالختان وبأن الاله واحد غير مرحب بها لدى الفراعنة..
اخذ موسى من معه من يهود وعلمهم هذه الديانة كما تقول نظرية فرويد, حيث بدأ توحيد الالهة لدى اليهود, ثم حدث الخروج لدى والتقى يهود بمصر بيهود آخرين يأمنون بـ"يهوه"..

قام يهود مصر بقتل موسى, فشعروا بالذنب الشديد ثم اتنكسوا وعادوا لديانته ليتم دمج الديانة الموسوية وعبادة يهوه معاً..

يقع فرويد في الكتاب بعدد اخطاء حيث انه لا يفصل بين اليهودية كديانة واليهودية كقومية عرقية سياسية, ايضاً نسي ان لدي اليهود خصوصاً التجار والاغنياء منهم نفوئاّ واسعاً في طموح الشعب اليهودي..

عموماً, يعود فرويد كذلك لنظرية الاب المسيطر الذي قتله ابناءه واتبعوا من بعده الزواج الخارجي والنموذج الامومي بدلاً من الابوي ثم انصهار الاب لدى الانا لديهم مع احساسٍ بالذنب لانهم قتلوا الاب فعاد الاب للظهر من جديد بصورة الطوطم او الحيوان المحرم ثم تطور هذا الحيوان ليصبح نصف انسان\حيوان ثم ظهر البطل ثم ظهر الاله الواحد..
انا شخصياً اميل لهذه النظرية التي تظهر لنا نشأة الاديان لدى البدائيين..

هذا كتابي الثاني لفرويد وما يعجبني هو تلخصيه للكتاب في نهياته وطرحهه للافكار من جديد من تجعل قرائته مفيدة وذات طابع تعليمي..

piccoline's review against another edition

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4.0

I mean, come on! This is one of those books you read with your jaw just dropping open at times. It's bold, creative, and maybe utterly nuts but so interesting! It also makes you a little sad. This is the kind of big, bold, bonkers moves that thinkers and "public intellectuals" used to carry out. These days all we seem to get is Chicken Soups or 12 Rules or some Pinker rah-rah-ing how great everything is now, amazing, better than ever (as long as you're rich and male and cis and white, he always forgets to add). I got some of the same thrill, in reading this, that I got from Julian Jaynes' incomparable [b:The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind|22478|The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind|Julian Jaynes|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1388305401s/22478.jpg|1311139]. Probably this shows I am a sucker for bold and irreverent theories that recast all of human history, all the way back before we were writing or even talking much. But aren't you tired of the timid nibbling around the edges of the known that you usually get? Here's someone going big!

I got to this book via [a:Adam Kotsko|1033716|Adam Kotsko|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1354437420p2/1033716.jpg]'s very useful policial theology reading list , and it's a wild ride. Enjoy it. (Kotsko's done some really nice work. Definitely check out [b:The Prince of This World|30072537|The Prince of This World|Adam Kotsko|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1462376428s/30072537.jpg|50490659].)
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