You need to sign in or sign up before continuing.

Reviews

De derde leugen by Ágota Kristóf

korrick's review against another edition

Go to review page

4.0

I would have rated this higher had not I fallen out of love with sadists a while ago. The vengeful hero, the vigilante serial killer, the commander, the mastermind, the Manhattan Project brain who believed wiping out whole sections of certain hemispheres would bring about world peace. All white, all male, all done to death. Forgive me my lack of impressed engagement upon encountering the latest prototype of trangressive film; for all their displayed atrocities, they refuse to show a woman's body in its natural state of body hair, so really, what exactly are my priorities supposed to be?
Over his head, lit by the moonlight shining through the gable window, the skeletons of his mother and her baby hang from a beam.
I know this is World War II. I know that this is greatly influenced by the author's own experiences. I know that I, pampered US Millennial that I am, cannot even begin to comprehend what it must have been like to live through such a time. However, I do know fiction, especially when it proclaims itself "objective". I do know what goes into scientific writing, reports and experiments and the distant pall that covers both number and organism. I do know this "objectivity" and its extensions in the writings of government and journalism and everything else that here, in the US, funnels the empathy into the sector of white patriarchy and renders us sadistic to every other tale of horror and woe where the physical characteristics do not fit. I have been moved in the past by such machinations, but not anymore.
"We killed many people by mistake, but at present everything is being sorted out. We apologize and promise that such mistakes will not be allowed to happen in the future."
The problem is not that I am desensitized to such violence, but that I have been conditioned to see only certain breeds of violence as worthy of not being desensitized to. This realization is what made me take a break from the inundation of WWII fiction, but when I saw the reviews for this book, I was reminded of [b:Purge|6050822|Puhdistus|Sofi Oksanen|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1292502837s/6050822.jpg|3426310] and [b:Blood Meridian|394535|Blood Meridian, or the Evening Redness in the West|Cormac McCarthy|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1453995760s/394535.jpg|1065465] and thought, maybe, this would be different. It was, and yet not, for as per usual all the women were sacrificed for the pain of men, and neither the internalized garroting of Oksanen nor the apocalyptic patriarchy of McCarthy was achieved.
"I say, "But he won't be here anymore. Order doesn't mean much to me if he isn't here anymore."
The old man says "On the contrary. From now on he'll always be with you wherever you go."
The book had its moments, as evidenced by the quotes. However, had I gotten my hands on [b:Le grand cahier|1118616|Le grand cahier|Ágota Kristóf|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1348993864s/1118616.jpg|26619540] before the others were translated, I would not have continued.
"Age doesn't matter. I'm her lover. Is that all you wanted to know?"
"No, that's not all. I knew that already. But do you love her?"
Lucas opens the door.
"I don't know the meaning of that word. No one does. I didn't expect that sort of question from you, Peter."
"Nevertheless, you will be asked that sort of question many times in the course of your life. And sometimes you will be obliged to answer it."
"And you, Peter? One day you will also be obliged to answer certain questions. I've been to some of your political meetings. You make speeches, the audience applauds. Do you really believe in what you say?"
"I have to believe it."
"But in your deepest self, what do you think?"
"I don't think. I can't allow myself the luxury. I've lived with fear since I was a child.

pancha_reads's review against another edition

Go to review page

dark sad tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? N/A
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5

eustachio's review against another edition

Go to review page

4.0

Klaus e Lucas sono fratelli gemelli. Hanno quattro anni quando la guerra comincia e la madre uccide il padre in preda alla rabbia. Una delle pallottole colpisce Lucas e potrebbe renderlo handicappato a vita. La madre impazzisce, Lucas viene mandato in un centro di riabilitazione, Klaus viene preso in custodia dalla donna con cui il padre aveva tradito la madre.
Durante la guerra il centro di Lucas viene bombardato, lui viene affidato a una donna anziana in una cittadina vicino alla frontiera (la «Nonna»). Klaus cerca Lucas invano (lo intravede ma non lo riconosce), torna definitivamente dalla madre, ora di nuovo a casa, ma vive nell'ombra del fratello, morto o scomparso che sia.
Alla fine della guerra la città viene presa da degli stranieri. Lucas riesce a oltrepassare la frontiera e vive all'estero per molti anni. Vivono vite intere, passano cinquant'anni.
Klaus lavora come un tipografo, scrive poesie, diventa famoso come scrittore sotto lo pseudonimo di Klaus Lucas.
Lucas ha una vita più mediocre. Scrive la sua storia ritoccandola, mischiando realtà e fantasia: alcuni elementi sono veri, come la guerra, gli anni passati dalla «Nonna» e alcuni nomi di persone che incontra, ma altri sono falsi.
Quello che leggiamo per due terzi del libro è una menzogna. I due gemelli insieme dalla Nonna che raccontano la loro esperienza ne Il grande quaderno finché uno dei due non oltrepassa la frontiera. Claus è andato, Lucas rimane. Lucas è sconvolto dall'assenza del fratello, e questa è La prova. Claus ritorna, ma Lucas è scomparso dopo l'ennesimo dolore. Ma Claus non è che Lucas, e Lucas è andato oltre la frontiera. Lì ha vissuto e ora è tornato per cercare suo fratello. Klaus non lo riconosce, non gli dice la verità sulla madre pazza, non accetta la sua esistenza. Lucas si suicida. Klaus conclude il libro di Lucas, scrivendo la seconda parte de La terza menzogna, e medita di suicidarsi nello stesso modo del fratello, dopo la morte della madre.
Solo nella morte la famiglia potrà riunirsi.

È un puzzle che si compone andando avanti con la storia, una matassa da sbrogliare per dividere la realtà dalla fantasia.
Due terzi del libro sono una menzogna. Non è solo la guerra che ha colpito il paese dei bambini, è la «cosa», la tragedia familiare che li condanna a un destino infelice. Nemmeno nell'immaginazione Lucas si salva. Nemmeno all'estero. Nemmeno quando ritroverà il fratello.

Lo stile è secco e crudo. La storia negativa e terribile. La Kristof scrive di un mondo senza speranza e senza pietà, dove tutti vivono in una «solitudine mortale».

ombraluce's review against another edition

Go to review page

5.0

Le tre parti del libro sfumano l'una dentro l'altra come una figura sfuma nell'altra quando si fa un morphing. E' sempre la stessa storia, nerissima e agghiacciante, ma vista sotto angolazioni diverse che non sono vere e proprie angolazioni.
Sono voci in controcanto, canoni, variazioni.
E sullo sfondo di tutto sempre la crudeltà, la guerra, l'ottusità umana.

camibizzerri's review against another edition

Go to review page

dark emotional inspiring reflective sad tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5

kranz's review against another edition

Go to review page

reflective sad medium-paced

3.5

zero_talents's review against another edition

Go to review page

dark emotional mysterious reflective sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.25

jantoine's review against another edition

Go to review page

emotional tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

1st part deserves a 5stars, 2nd is a bit unnecessary but ends with a nice boom, 3d is just a mindfuck

Expand filter menu Content Warnings

almanasheck's review against another edition

Go to review page

challenging dark emotional mysterious sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? N/A
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

givli's review against another edition

Go to review page

adventurous dark emotional mysterious sad tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5