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cinda_lu's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
3.5
I enjoyed the creative world building and plot line. I also liked Lessa. I liked that she was clever, strong-willed, and inquisitive. I did not like F'lar at first, he was insensitive, arrogant, and slightly misogynistic. However, he did improve throught the book and eventually grew on me.
The one one glaring issue I had with this book wasthe unaddressed rape of Lessa by F'lar during the Dragon mating flight. She was given no warning about what might happen during this time and was mostly unaware of what was happening to her body because her mind was "riding with Ramoth". This unwitting and non-consenual sex was basically rape. And F'lar even admitted as much in the book yet never addressed what happened or apologized. He was supposedly unhappy with how things had gone, but only because she wasn't respond to him the way he wanted.
The writing itself had an undercurrent of patriarchy which was also unpleasant. But I found Lessa to be an admirable protagonist despite that.
The one one glaring issue I had with this book was
The writing itself had an undercurrent of patriarchy which was also unpleasant. But I found Lessa to be an admirable protagonist despite that.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Misogyny and Sexism
Minor: Rape
jess_justmaybeperfect's review against another edition
adventurous
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Yes old school sci-fi so there are some dated themes but the story, the astronomy, the ritualism, and the dragons are amazing. Also, this book (published in 1968) tackles gender roles, faith, respecting and expanding upon tradition, and the "girl" (she's a grown woman) saves the day.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual assault, Fatphobia, and Sexism
shellbow's review against another edition
I can see how this book series is perhaps a foundational one, but unfortunately I could not move past the markers of its age.
Particularly, the way women are written. Most every woman we meet is being abused physically/mentally, if not sexually. And there is not really any sympathy extended towards these women. They're seen as vapid, shallow, useless, and more often than not ugly (as if this is a mark of their character). The one exception, of course, is our protagonist Lessa - a classic "not like other girls".
One such passage that really sticks out to me is when Lessa and the other girls taken for the searching (against their will) are dropped into an arena to potentially bond with the new dragon queen. Lessa "....regarded them curiously, contemptuous of their tears, although her heart was probably beating no less rapidly than theirs...Her contempt of their bleating made her aware of her own temerity...Let them be afraid."
Two of these girls were then mutilated. In my mind, their fear was justified.
The prose itself was also confusing at times, and there seemed to be some context to the dialogue I couldn't understand. I chalked this up to a style of the times it was written. I could have been able to push past that, if the blatant misogynistic tones were easier for me to stomach. It was for those reasons I ultimately decided to DNF.
Particularly, the way women are written. Most every woman we meet is being abused physically/mentally, if not sexually. And there is not really any sympathy extended towards these women. They're seen as vapid, shallow, useless, and more often than not ugly (as if this is a mark of their character). The one exception, of course, is our protagonist Lessa - a classic "not like other girls".
One such passage that really sticks out to me is when Lessa and the other girls taken for the searching (against their will) are dropped into an arena to potentially bond with the new dragon queen. Lessa "....regarded them curiously, contemptuous of their tears, although her heart was probably beating no less rapidly than theirs...Her contempt of their bleating made her aware of her own temerity...Let them be afraid."
Two of these girls were then mutilated. In my mind, their fear was justified.
The prose itself was also confusing at times, and there seemed to be some context to the dialogue I couldn't understand. I chalked this up to a style of the times it was written. I could have been able to push past that, if the blatant misogynistic tones were easier for me to stomach. It was for those reasons I ultimately decided to DNF.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexism
Moderate: Sexual assault and Sexual violence
caffeinated_magpie's review against another edition
adventurous
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.75
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexism and Sexual assault
kschauer18's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.0
I would like to believe that all the sexism in this book was intentionally written for commentary but... I'm not sure that's 100% the case. Pretty unlikable characters all around.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexism
Minor: War
keelirae113's review against another edition
adventurous
hopeful
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexism, Misogyny, and Violence
Moderate: Injury/Injury detail, Fire/Fire injury, Classism, Blood, and Death of parent
Minor: Grief, Kidnapping, Animal death, and Child death
jackiepreston's review against another edition
adventurous
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.0
I can see why this book/series has inspired so many fantasy writers since it was published, but reading it for the first time with a solid background in fantasy, it was slow and a little boring in parts. The entire first section (of four) was so slow I almost put the book down. Only my curiosity about why this series has been so enduring got me to push through it.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Misogyny, Death, Violence, and Animal death
Moderate: Injury/Injury detail and Sexism
uranaishi's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.75
Content Warnings
Moderate: Animal death, Death of parent, Alcohol, Animal cruelty, Murder, Panic attacks/disorders, Pregnancy, Sexism, Sexual violence, Physical abuse, Sexual content, Death, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Misogyny
Minor: Child abuse, Classism, Fire/Fire injury, Blood, Body horror, Child death, Grief, Infidelity, Injury/Injury detail, Confinement, Rape, and Body shaming
wishbea's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.0
Heir to Ruatha, Lessa, wants her kingdom back from invader Fax. Dragonman F'lar wants a woman to bond with a female dragon because they need more dragons and dragonmen. The two are initially very compelling characters, Lessa is focused entirely on revenge and is smart enough to have kept herself hidden at Ruatha for 10 years, F'lar is evidently a good leader and extremely calculating.
The early chapters did an excellent job teaching me about the politics and world itself. But the more I saw of F'lar and Lessa the more I disliked them, I was initially rooting for them to learn to trust each other but F'lar loses all his charisma as he is clearly abusing Lessa to the point where she appears to have a panic attack about returning to him.
Lessa seems like she might've been considered a strong female character at the time of release, but she, like all of the characters including F'lar, ends up being reduced to being a purely arrogant character. The sexism she has to deal with is dreadful and there are only 3 other female characters in this book I could name, so Lessa gets points for rebelling against her treatment.
The dragons are great and the threat of the "Threads" and the main problem of the Weyr seemed like it wouldn't be solved within the very first book..However, it is! In the space of 30 pages Lessa solves the incredibly complex problem with absolutely no issues convincing anyone! She convinced 1800 dragonmen and their dragons to abandon their lives 400 years in the past and come to the future with her and they happily do this because "they are bored". She and all the other characters seem to be entirely unaware that this means she herself has caused the very issue she was trying to solve. The plot becomes laughably bad towards the end, so much so I can hardly believe I was enjoying this book at the beginning.
On top of that, since the main hook and problem of this book has been solved I don't see any reason to read the following book. Surely now they've increased their forces 9x they can defeat the threads. "Threads" aren't a very interesting villain and I really don't care about how they are defeated enough to try reading the next book. I was extremely surprised the storyline with Fax didn't last longer because he was a much more interesting antagonist.
The early chapters did an excellent job teaching me about the politics and world itself. But the more I saw of F'lar and Lessa the more I disliked them, I was initially rooting for them to learn to trust each other but F'lar loses all his charisma as he is clearly abusing Lessa to the point where she appears to have a panic attack about returning to him.
Lessa seems like she might've been considered a strong female character at the time of release, but she, like all of the characters including F'lar, ends up being reduced to being a purely arrogant character. The sexism she has to deal with is dreadful and there are only 3 other female characters in this book I could name, so Lessa gets points for rebelling against her treatment.
The dragons are great and the threat of the "Threads" and the main problem of the Weyr seemed like it wouldn't be solved within the very first book..However, it is! In the space of 30 pages Lessa solves the incredibly complex problem with absolutely no issues convincing anyone!
On top of that, since the main hook and problem of this book has been solved I don't see any reason to read the following book. Surely now
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexism, Physical abuse, Misogyny, Toxic relationship, Domestic abuse, and Rape
Moderate: Pregnancy, Confinement, and Mental illness
polarbbp's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
sad
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
1.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Fatphobia, Rape, Sexism, Gaslighting, Kidnapping, Domestic abuse, Sexual assault, Toxic relationship, Misogyny, and Pregnancy