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"Settlers coming to a foreign land and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect."
I was divided between this and a 4/5. But if on the one hand, it feels and is by now an outdated book, it is the shocking lack of progress on the ground that makes it as sadly actual as it was when it launched, while at the same time having the temporal distance to see how things are just as they were post-Arab Spring. Chomsky and Pappé are able to thoroughly cover the root causes and possible paths forward to the Israeli occupation, and were able to teach me more about the shortcomings of a two state solution, which is the pitch we're used to hearing.
I was divided between this and a 4/5. But if on the one hand, it feels and is by now an outdated book, it is the shocking lack of progress on the ground that makes it as sadly actual as it was when it launched, while at the same time having the temporal distance to see how things are just as they were post-Arab Spring. Chomsky and Pappé are able to thoroughly cover the root causes and possible paths forward to the Israeli occupation, and were able to teach me more about the shortcomings of a two state solution, which is the pitch we're used to hearing.
Clear and concise. I couldn't recommend more! Will definitely be re-reading.
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When I found Chomsky wrote this book, I wondered which part of the war, sorry, I mean the conflict he wanted to discuss. Since he's a linguist theorist, I guess he wanted to focus on the propaganda that Zionists used. Then, it is more than what I thought.
This book consisted of Chomsky and Pappe discussions of the Israel - Palestine war. They delivered a comprehensive historical and political overview of what happened there. Also, they talked about it based on the understanding and research they did related to this.
Chomsky shared his podcast and understanding as an American, while Pappe was an Israeli. No pov from Palestinian side, but it didn't mean they did not portray what happened there objectively. They shared detailed facts that they found.
Of course, they talk about the colonialism of the Zionists to Palestinians. They also talked about the history behind it.
If you think this book was an introductory book about the Israel-Palestine war, I assume you need to check any references. But if you have a basic understanding about the issue, it's okay to give a shot at this book.
This book consisted of Chomsky and Pappe discussions of the Israel - Palestine war. They delivered a comprehensive historical and political overview of what happened there. Also, they talked about it based on the understanding and research they did related to this.
Chomsky shared his podcast and understanding as an American, while Pappe was an Israeli. No pov from Palestinian side, but it didn't mean they did not portray what happened there objectively. They shared detailed facts that they found.
Of course, they talk about the colonialism of the Zionists to Palestinians. They also talked about the history behind it.
If you think this book was an introductory book about the Israel-Palestine war, I assume you need to check any references. But if you have a basic understanding about the issue, it's okay to give a shot at this book.
Préfèred Ilan’s sections. I found their discussion of student protest particularly relèvent at the moment, but not profoundly insightful in anyway.
It was good. Not crazy readable due to the format, kinda old (Obama era) and very technical. Excellent takes though. It's nice to not be gaslight for once
So so good… but I would read Chomsky’s grocery lists. I didn’t realize this was a sequel to a different collaboration that Chomsky did with Ilan Pappe, but I loved the format. It was a back-and-forth dialogue and at times they disagreed, but they were both so brilliant in dissecting the rhetoric around Israel & Palestine and how the complexity of the issue is manufactured in part to disguise that it’s just another iteration of settler colonialism.
Ilan Pappe has such a unique perspective because he is Israeli, and I loved hearing how his mind was changed and how he became a leading voice in Palestine’s liberation.
Ilan Pappe has such a unique perspective because he is Israeli, and I loved hearing how his mind was changed and how he became a leading voice in Palestine’s liberation.
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if you’re looking for a good introduction to Israeli colonialism in Palestine, you will not go too wrong with this book. NC and IP are informative, insightful… a great read
informative
reflective
medium-paced