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4.14 AVERAGE
4.14 AVERAGE
It took me a surprising amount of time to get through his book, but I ended up liking it. Lover Avenged definitely opens up a whole new dimension by focusing primarily on sympaths, and, as the Brotherhood boys would say, what's doing with those darn lessers. Wrath is also a big part of this particular story, which I liked because he's my favorite Brother.
My favorite part of this book, however, is Rehvenge himself. I honestly did not expect to like him as much as I now do! He was such a good guy, particularly when it came to caring for the people around him - his co-workers, his friends, his family, and even the Brotherhood. It was hard not to appreciate all the sacrifices he made, and all the lengths he was willing to go through for the ones he loved. That, accompanied by the innate goodness in his girl Ehlena, definitely made for some really sweet moments to read about.
(originally posted on Alexa Loves Books)
My favorite part of this book, however, is Rehvenge himself. I honestly did not expect to like him as much as I now do! He was such a good guy, particularly when it came to caring for the people around him - his co-workers, his friends, his family, and even the Brotherhood. It was hard not to appreciate all the sacrifices he made, and all the lengths he was willing to go through for the ones he loved. That, accompanied by the innate goodness in his girl Ehlena, definitely made for some really sweet moments to read about.
(originally posted on Alexa Loves Books)
Always though Rehvenge was a cool dude, but after this book I love him! Him and Ehlena make such a good couple. Both brave and have good hearts! Xhex was awesome in this and I can't wait to read her story in the next book.
I like the twisted psychological angle with the sympaths in this one. I think they are fascinating creatures and I am enjoying learning more about them. My only complaint with this book is a character's casual used of the slur "gy**ed" to mean "ripped off." Does the author not realize that expression is offensive to an ethnic group? I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt as the book was written before sensitivity readers.
AVISO: ESTE LIVRO TEM A PIOR TRADUÇÃO QUE EU ALGUMA VEZ TIVE A INFELICIDADE DE LER!
The original story _in english_ is outstanding.
The characters as always, are bigger than life, and the plot is amazingly complex and dangerously addictive.
The author has the ability of connecting every single point in the story, leaving no lose ends.
There's action, romance, and drama.
There's stories, and moments in it, so heartbreaking, that they almost make a reader feel as if one's reading a non fiction work.
Probably there isn't a lot of authors who who'd have the courage to develop certain situations, the way they were dealt in this book.
I loved Rhevenge and Ehlena story.
Rhevenge especially, was an amazingly addictive character.
I cant wait to read what's is going to happen with the other characters!
And now i'm going to mention "some"(yeah, right!) problems of the portuguese edition.
A tradução portuguesa é, pura e simplesmente uma vergonha, não existe outra forma de a descrever.
Desde os significados mais absurdos que se possam imaginar, a tradutora ou tradutor automático, confunde morcego com taco de basebol
"Tinha gostado daquele episódio. Era aquele em que se perdia o taco de beisebol...
Alguns gritos chegaram a ele, gerados pela comédia.
Sim. O taco de beisebol estava agora a voar."(pg 94)
CONTEXTO:
Tem-de-se ter atenção ao contexto!!
"He liked this epi. It was the one where the bat got loose—
A bunch of screams rippled over, generated by the sitcom.
Yup. The bat was flying around now."
Traduções atamancadas
"_Não sou capaz de ver isto com a mesma rapidez que tu.(pg 12)
“I fail to view this with your kind of levity.”
Leviandade, não rapidez...
apesar de estar a pingar sangue como uma cisterna furada.(pg 21)
and despite the fact that he was leaking like a corroded cistern.
Corroída, ao invés de furada.
"Cansada de si mesmo até à indigestão,(..)pg 37
Sick to shit of herself,
Farta de si, até à merda....não farta de si, até à indigestão.
Genial. Merda! (pg 53)
“Tough. Shit.”
Paciência??
Palavras inventadas:
"Bolas! Ela não podia provocá-lo,(..)"(pg 36)
Man, she could pick ’em.(..)".
Como é que se passa de: "Raios, ela realmente sabia escolhê-los" para "provocá-lo"??
Frases sem o mínimo sentido:
"V olhou fixamente o rosto golpeado até ficar irreconhecível."(pg 49)
V’s stare locked on a face that was beaten beyond recognition.
A face tinha sido golpeada(??) para além do reconhecimento. O olhar do V não teve nada a ver com isso.
"Rehv franziu o sobrolho, já que a questão da atracção sexual recordava-lhe algo em que não gostave de pensar.
Preferia pensar em alguém. (pg 68)
Rehv frowned, the whole sexual attraction thing reminding him of something he didn’t like to think about.
Someone, rather.
"Alguém, em que ele não queria pensar". Ou seja precisamente o sentido oposto.
"Ligue-me se alguma vez tiver vontade de me fazer um favor.
_Correndo o risco de parcer pouco profissional, nunca vou ter vontade de lhe fazer um favor. Em circunstância alguma.
“And call me if you’re ever in the mood to do me a favor.”
“At the risk of sounding unprofessional, I’m never going to be in the mood for you. Under any circumstances.”
O que Ehlena diz, seria algo do género: "...eu nunca vou estar na disposição para si. A sua recusa vai muito além, de estar na disposição ou não, de fazer um favor ao Revh.
Eu não li todo este texto em português, porque simplesmente não tive estômago e tempo para o fazer, e como tal, imagino que existam muitos mais disparates, que eu nunca irei descobrir.
Talvez algum verdadeiro tradutor(a) alguma vez esteja na disposição de irritar-se durante uns bons dias, a corrigir tal tradução..
Mais algumas idiotices, para se ficar com os olhos em bico( pois, ainda mais!) que descobri neste texto:
"Não podes mudar quem és. Não podes mudar o acoplamento dos teus pais."(pg 73)
“You can’t change who you are. You can’t undo the coupling of whatever parents you had."
Ora, acoplamento em português não é usado para descrever uma união entre duas pessoas.
Acoplamento. m. O mesmo que acoplagem
Acoplagem.f. "união mecânica de dois eixos.."; "acoplar:Bras. gir. Casar-se."
Somos brasileiros?
Eu pensava que não...então isso quer dizer que os pais do Wrath, efectuaram uma união mecãnica de dois eixos....lol, bem, no mínimo!!
"Ficas realmente bem, vestida de cabedal, sabias?
_E tu ficarias melhor num espartilho empenado
“You look really good in leather, you know that.”
“You’d look better in a body cast.”
AHHHHHHH, CLLLLAAAAAAARRRRRROOOOO, porque "coberto de gesso dos pés à cabeça" só pode ser traduzido para "espartilho empenado". Bem, isto é que foi gozar com os leitores...
Já agora, uma pergunta...existem revisores, para QUÊ??
Para verificar as vírgulas??
"Os vampiros são o caldo de cultivo a partir do qual evoluímos,(..)pg 169
Vampires are the crass basis of where we evolved from,
os vampiros são a fundação/base/início grosseiro, a a partir do qual evoluímos.
Graças a uma amiga do GR,(Obrigada Patrícia!) fiquei a saber que a expressão "Caldo de cultivo" será espanhola. Então esta tradução foi feita a partir do inglês...sim??? Ou espanhol??
Apesar de até agora ter todos os volumes em português,(okay, falta-me o do Phury, que li em inglês. Graças a DEUS!) não pretendo voltar a comprar mais nenhum volume traduzido por esta editora.
O desrespeito que esta tradução mostra pelos leitores, leva-me a crer, que a editora, não está interessada em mais leitores. Bom para vocês, CASA DAS LETRAS/ LEYA, porque EU não pretendo voltar a comprar mais nenhum livro que por vós seja editado.
P.S- Eu não sou tradutora, mas leio e escrevo em inglês há muitos anos. Cometo erros, em inglês e português.
No entanto, se não conheço o significado de alguma palavra, tento descobri-lo. Não me coloco a inventar.
The original story _in english_ is outstanding.
The characters as always, are bigger than life, and the plot is amazingly complex and dangerously addictive.
The author has the ability of connecting every single point in the story, leaving no lose ends.
There's action, romance, and drama.
There's stories, and moments in it, so heartbreaking, that they almost make a reader feel as if one's reading a non fiction work.
Probably there isn't a lot of authors who who'd have the courage to develop certain situations, the way they were dealt in this book.
I loved Rhevenge and Ehlena story.
Rhevenge especially, was an amazingly addictive character.
I cant wait to read what's is going to happen with the other characters!
And now i'm going to mention "some"(yeah, right!) problems of the portuguese edition.
A tradução portuguesa é, pura e simplesmente uma vergonha, não existe outra forma de a descrever.
Desde os significados mais absurdos que se possam imaginar, a tradutora ou tradutor automático, confunde morcego com taco de basebol
"Tinha gostado daquele episódio. Era aquele em que se perdia o taco de beisebol...
Alguns gritos chegaram a ele, gerados pela comédia.
Sim. O taco de beisebol estava agora a voar."(pg 94)
CONTEXTO:
Tem-de-se ter atenção ao contexto!!
"He liked this epi. It was the one where the bat got loose—
A bunch of screams rippled over, generated by the sitcom.
Yup. The bat was flying around now."
Traduções atamancadas
"_Não sou capaz de ver isto com a mesma rapidez que tu.(pg 12)
“I fail to view this with your kind of levity.”
Leviandade, não rapidez...
apesar de estar a pingar sangue como uma cisterna furada.(pg 21)
and despite the fact that he was leaking like a corroded cistern.
Corroída, ao invés de furada.
"Cansada de si mesmo até à indigestão,(..)pg 37
Sick to shit of herself,
Farta de si, até à merda....não farta de si, até à indigestão.
Genial. Merda! (pg 53)
“Tough. Shit.”
Paciência??
Palavras inventadas:
"Bolas! Ela não podia provocá-lo,(..)"(pg 36)
Man, she could pick ’em.(..)".
Como é que se passa de: "Raios, ela realmente sabia escolhê-los" para "provocá-lo"??
Frases sem o mínimo sentido:
"V olhou fixamente o rosto golpeado até ficar irreconhecível."(pg 49)
V’s stare locked on a face that was beaten beyond recognition.
A face tinha sido golpeada(??) para além do reconhecimento. O olhar do V não teve nada a ver com isso.
"Rehv franziu o sobrolho, já que a questão da atracção sexual recordava-lhe algo em que não gostave de pensar.
Preferia pensar em alguém. (pg 68)
Rehv frowned, the whole sexual attraction thing reminding him of something he didn’t like to think about.
Someone, rather.
"Alguém, em que ele não queria pensar". Ou seja precisamente o sentido oposto.
"Ligue-me se alguma vez tiver vontade de me fazer um favor.
_Correndo o risco de parcer pouco profissional, nunca vou ter vontade de lhe fazer um favor. Em circunstância alguma.
“And call me if you’re ever in the mood to do me a favor.”
“At the risk of sounding unprofessional, I’m never going to be in the mood for you. Under any circumstances.”
O que Ehlena diz, seria algo do género: "...eu nunca vou estar na disposição para si. A sua recusa vai muito além, de estar na disposição ou não, de fazer um favor ao Revh.
Eu não li todo este texto em português, porque simplesmente não tive estômago e tempo para o fazer, e como tal, imagino que existam muitos mais disparates, que eu nunca irei descobrir.
Talvez algum verdadeiro tradutor(a) alguma vez esteja na disposição de irritar-se durante uns bons dias, a corrigir tal tradução..
Mais algumas idiotices, para se ficar com os olhos em bico( pois, ainda mais!) que descobri neste texto:
"Não podes mudar quem és. Não podes mudar o acoplamento dos teus pais."(pg 73)
“You can’t change who you are. You can’t undo the coupling of whatever parents you had."
Ora, acoplamento em português não é usado para descrever uma união entre duas pessoas.
Acoplamento. m. O mesmo que acoplagem
Acoplagem.f. "união mecânica de dois eixos.."; "acoplar:Bras. gir. Casar-se."
Somos brasileiros?
Eu pensava que não...então isso quer dizer que os pais do Wrath, efectuaram uma união mecãnica de dois eixos....lol, bem, no mínimo!!
"Ficas realmente bem, vestida de cabedal, sabias?
_E tu ficarias melhor num espartilho empenado
“You look really good in leather, you know that.”
“You’d look better in a body cast.”
AHHHHHHH, CLLLLAAAAAAARRRRRROOOOO, porque "coberto de gesso dos pés à cabeça" só pode ser traduzido para "espartilho empenado". Bem, isto é que foi gozar com os leitores...
Já agora, uma pergunta...existem revisores, para QUÊ??
Para verificar as vírgulas??
"Os vampiros são o caldo de cultivo a partir do qual evoluímos,(..)pg 169
Vampires are the crass basis of where we evolved from,
os vampiros são a fundação/base/início grosseiro, a a partir do qual evoluímos.
Graças a uma amiga do GR,(Obrigada Patrícia!) fiquei a saber que a expressão "Caldo de cultivo" será espanhola. Então esta tradução foi feita a partir do inglês...sim??? Ou espanhol??
Apesar de até agora ter todos os volumes em português,(okay, falta-me o do Phury, que li em inglês. Graças a DEUS!) não pretendo voltar a comprar mais nenhum volume traduzido por esta editora.
O desrespeito que esta tradução mostra pelos leitores, leva-me a crer, que a editora, não está interessada em mais leitores. Bom para vocês, CASA DAS LETRAS/ LEYA, porque EU não pretendo voltar a comprar mais nenhum livro que por vós seja editado.
P.S- Eu não sou tradutora, mas leio e escrevo em inglês há muitos anos. Cometo erros, em inglês e português.
No entanto, se não conheço o significado de alguma palavra, tento descobri-lo. Não me coloco a inventar.
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Rehvenge and Ehlena - I really liked their story. It was a little different than the rest so far, plus it gave a lot of background info setting up the next one and giving insight to the wider vampire community outside the Brotherhood. Plus, really, a wonderful story of redemption and self-forgiveness, similar to Z's story (which was one of my other favs).
dark
emotional
tense
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
I liked Lover Avenged, but there was something about the book that didn't quite work for me. There seemed to be a shift somewhere; it didn't read like a Black Dagger Brotherhood book, IMO. Maybe it's because the book was about Rehvenge and he's not a brother. Also, this is the first time that I became annoyed with the lessers. They are an integral piece to the on-going war, but it was just about Lash finding ways to make money and it was boring to read about. Besides what's going on with Wrath, the storyline did not move forward in this book. The whole war issue with the lessers was at a stand-still and I wished there was some type of progression with it.
With my complaints aside, I loved Rehvenge and Ehlena. I liked how gentle he was with her and there was true emotion when they were together. I thought the revelation of who, and what, Rehvenge was handled beautifully. Ehlena's feelings and reactions were spot on and I admired how she was able to forgive him.
I felt so bad for JM in this book. He got kicked around too much, but I hated how he decided to handle everything. He's never had much guidance, and the one person he looks up to, was not around when he needed it. I am looking forward to his book, which I believe is next. Honestly, I hope it's not as long as this one was.
With my complaints aside, I loved Rehvenge and Ehlena. I liked how gentle he was with her and there was true emotion when they were together. I thought the revelation of who, and what, Rehvenge was handled beautifully. Ehlena's feelings and reactions were spot on and I admired how she was able to forgive him.
I felt so bad for JM in this book. He got kicked around too much, but I hated how he decided to handle everything. He's never had much guidance, and the one person he looks up to, was not around when he needed it. I am looking forward to his book, which I believe is next. Honestly, I hope it's not as long as this one was.
So it took me literally MONTHS to read this book. Mostly because I couldn't stand Lash and had to put it down for 4 months before finishing it.
My inability to tear through the book in no way reflects on Rehvenge who I have come to decide is my second favorite. Before Lover Avenged, I never really cared for him one way or another...same goes for Xhex. This time around though, I was able to see a different side to both of their characters. They both have a lot more depth then I had ever seen prior to this.
With my newfound love of Revhenge you can imagine how VERY unhappy I am that the woman he gets stuck with is such an uppity ______. <---Insert your own expletive there. Ehlena started off fine for me...loved the beginning where they were flirting and courting and Rehv was so tender. Then little by little she becomes Miss Judgey Pants!
I don't really want to get into too much without completely giving the story away. Ehlena sort of redeemed herself in my eyes, although it felt a little convenient and rushed but isn't that how each Brotherhood book has felt- at least for the last 3. (Haven't quite gotten to John Matthew yet.)
Overall it was a really good edition to the series, even with the issues I had. You get to see a nice big chunk of Wrath and all the other Brothers/shellans are accounted for. Even Mary!
My inability to tear through the book in no way reflects on Rehvenge who I have come to decide is my second favorite. Before Lover Avenged, I never really cared for him one way or another...same goes for Xhex. This time around though, I was able to see a different side to both of their characters. They both have a lot more depth then I had ever seen prior to this.
With my newfound love of Revhenge you can imagine how VERY unhappy I am that the woman he gets stuck with is such an uppity ______. <---Insert your own expletive there. Ehlena started off fine for me...loved the beginning where they were flirting and courting and Rehv was so tender. Then little by little she becomes Miss Judgey Pants!
I don't really want to get into too much without completely giving the story away. Ehlena sort of redeemed herself in my eyes, although it felt a little convenient and rushed but isn't that how each Brotherhood book has felt- at least for the last 3. (Haven't quite gotten to John Matthew yet.)
Overall it was a really good edition to the series, even with the issues I had. You get to see a nice big chunk of Wrath and all the other Brothers/shellans are accounted for. Even Mary!
I'm not going to lie; Rhev has kind of creeped me out in the previous books. I'm glad to say that my opinion of him has changed now that we know his story. And I love Ehlena even though she makes some interesting choices in the book. I especially love the developing relationship between John Matthew and Xhex. I can't wait for the next book!