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daumari's review against another edition
1.0
I'm slightly peeved this will count as one and not two for my Goodreads challenge, but it makes sense- they're bound together. Buddyread Life and Death with GRless!Alexandra, and since Goodreads counts all the pages and it's been a while, I figured I'd reread Twilight.
Back when the series debut, I was definitely on the hatefan train- my young adult internet experiences were lurking in those livejournal communities (which dates me, aaah), especially Cleolinda's recaps. . I always like backing up assertions with evidence, though, so I borrowed my college roommate's copies and tore through the series over Fall Break. The characters were easy to hate- Bella's constant negativity and passiveness, Edward's possessiveness would be bad traits in real life.
And yet- as I reread, I recall that I was a pessimistic teenager who figured out would-be career paths by what I didn't like, thriving on snark, and getting sniffy over popular things... like Twilight. Maybe the reason I dislike Bella is that really, actually, Bella is me (and every other ladyteen at some point).
I'm still not convinced Twilight is a Great Work, though- after the meadow sequence, Edward and Bella are so into each other I think I screamed into an update "JUST BONE ALREADY" even though I know it won't happen for another few books because she's breakable.
And on that note, that's one of several things Life and Death fixed, as Beau and Edythe have a straightforward conversation about how she could crush his skull accidentally. Besides being a genderswap, Meyer took the time to do a fresh round of edits because after a decade, you know what mistakes/repetitive phrasing/etc. appeared in your first work. It's not a complete find-and-replace- Charlie and Renee are the same because Meyer thought in the time period, there's no way the courts would give custody to a flightly man vs. the very stable Charlie, and some minor characters aren't swapped (I am not well-versed in Twilore to pick out who they were).
Due to the nature of the flip-and-read-the-other-story binding, there were a couple times in L&D where I looked to see what the original passages said. In a lot of cases, Beau is a little more thoughtful, with longer explanations for why he thinks about his classmates in a certain way, or about Forks. Beau has less of a chip on his shoulder, definitely. I also like Edythe more- while she still watches Beau sleep, she feels less stalky, and more concerned in general with the longterm status of their relationship. I'm not totally convinced the Port Angeles events are a solid genderswap counterpart (instead of girls looking for prom dresses, it's guys getting corsages and... seeing a movie? Instead of attempted sexual assault, the PA gang things Beau is an undercover cop? what), and disappointingly, Beau didn't take ballet lessons (instead, it's that his mom taught at the studio). There definitely could've been more interesting directions to go with this spear version of Bella.
Without spoiling, it'd be impossible for Meyer to continue doing genderswapped versions of the other books, as L&D ends differently. It feels a little more tragic to me, and also has consequences for AU!world.
1.5 stars, but I don't wanna round up to Goodreads' "it was ok" 2. I may understand your sparkly vampire romance novels a little better, but they're still... not... good.
Back when the series debut, I was definitely on the hatefan train- my young adult internet experiences were lurking in those livejournal communities (which dates me, aaah), especially Cleolinda's recaps. . I always like backing up assertions with evidence, though, so I borrowed my college roommate's copies and tore through the series over Fall Break. The characters were easy to hate- Bella's constant negativity and passiveness, Edward's possessiveness would be bad traits in real life.
And yet- as I reread, I recall that I was a pessimistic teenager who figured out would-be career paths by what I didn't like, thriving on snark, and getting sniffy over popular things... like Twilight. Maybe the reason I dislike Bella is that really, actually, Bella is me (and every other ladyteen at some point).
I'm still not convinced Twilight is a Great Work, though- after the meadow sequence, Edward and Bella are so into each other I think I screamed into an update "JUST BONE ALREADY" even though I know it won't happen for another few books because she's breakable.
And on that note, that's one of several things Life and Death fixed, as Beau and Edythe have a straightforward conversation about how she could crush his skull accidentally. Besides being a genderswap, Meyer took the time to do a fresh round of edits because after a decade, you know what mistakes/repetitive phrasing/etc. appeared in your first work. It's not a complete find-and-replace- Charlie and Renee are the same because Meyer thought in the time period, there's no way the courts would give custody to a flightly man vs. the very stable Charlie, and some minor characters aren't swapped (I am not well-versed in Twilore to pick out who they were).
Due to the nature of the flip-and-read-the-other-story binding, there were a couple times in L&D where I looked to see what the original passages said. In a lot of cases, Beau is a little more thoughtful, with longer explanations for why he thinks about his classmates in a certain way, or about Forks. Beau has less of a chip on his shoulder, definitely. I also like Edythe more- while she still watches Beau sleep, she feels less stalky, and more concerned in general with the longterm status of their relationship. I'm not totally convinced the Port Angeles events are a solid genderswap counterpart (instead of girls looking for prom dresses, it's guys getting corsages and... seeing a movie? Instead of attempted sexual assault, the PA gang things Beau is an undercover cop? what), and disappointingly, Beau didn't take ballet lessons (instead, it's that his mom taught at the studio). There definitely could've been more interesting directions to go with this spear version of Bella.
Without spoiling, it'd be impossible for Meyer to continue doing genderswapped versions of the other books, as L&D ends differently. It feels a little more tragic to me, and also has consequences for AU!world.
1.5 stars, but I don't wanna round up to Goodreads' "it was ok" 2. I may understand your sparkly vampire romance novels a little better, but they're still... not... good.
elcanaldevenecia's review against another edition
5.0
I CAN'T BELIEVE MY FAV AUTHOR DID THIS TO ME....
THE ENDING WAS SOOOOOOOO SAD, I COULDN'T HANDLE IT. I HAD TO FIND SOMEONE TO TALK TO AND MOM WAS AVAILABLE SO SHE HEARD ALL MY COMPLAININGS. EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS NOT LISTENING THAT WELL, I COULD FEEL RELIEVE AFTER THAT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS HORRIFYING BECAUSE STEPHANIE MADE ME BELIEVE IT WAS THE SAME STORY. I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS BAD AT ALL BUT IT DID BRAIN F*CKED ME. I ENJOY IT SO BAD BUT I CRIED SO HARD TOO. POOR CHARLIE AND RENEE THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT. AND ALSO POOR BEAU'S FRIENDS AND JULES :(
IT WAS A DIFFICULT CHOICE BUT IN BELLA'S STORY WOULD BE ALMOST THE SAME IF JAKE HADN'T TOLD CHARLIE. ANYWAY I LOVE IT SO MUCH !!! <3 BUT I WOULD PREFER THAT BEAU COULD SAY GOODBYE :(
LOVE TWILIGHT SOOOOOO MUCH
THE ENDING WAS SOOOOOOOO SAD, I COULDN'T HANDLE IT. I HAD TO FIND SOMEONE TO TALK TO AND MOM WAS AVAILABLE SO SHE HEARD ALL MY COMPLAININGS. EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS NOT LISTENING THAT WELL, I COULD FEEL RELIEVE AFTER THAT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS HORRIFYING BECAUSE STEPHANIE MADE ME BELIEVE IT WAS THE SAME STORY. I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS BAD AT ALL BUT IT DID BRAIN F*CKED ME. I ENJOY IT SO BAD BUT I CRIED SO HARD TOO. POOR CHARLIE AND RENEE THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT. AND ALSO POOR BEAU'S FRIENDS AND JULES :(
IT WAS A DIFFICULT CHOICE BUT IN BELLA'S STORY WOULD BE ALMOST THE SAME IF JAKE HADN'T TOLD CHARLIE. ANYWAY I LOVE IT SO MUCH !!! <3 BUT I WOULD PREFER THAT BEAU COULD SAY GOODBYE :(
LOVE TWILIGHT SOOOOOO MUCH
currents_convulsive's review against another edition
5.0
I'm bi and I simp over buff women that can stop a van with her hands. 5/5
uutopicaa's review against another edition
4.0
Quisiera dejar algo en claro para todas esas personas que todavía no han leído la historia:
Esta novela ES CREPÚSCULO con los personajes en roles opuestos, con los sexos cambiados. La autora lo aclaró en su blog antes de publicarlo y lo repitió luego en el prefacio de la obra.
¿Qué significa? Esta no es una NUEVA novela, sino la misma historia con pequeños cambios para responder al "qué hubiese pasado si..."
Con eso aclarado, he leído muchas reseñas que se quejan porque "es lo mismo que Crepúsculo y muchos diálogos son textuales."
¿Y QUÉ CARAJO ESPERABAN?
Eso es lo que la autora dijo que era y prometió desde un comienzo. Si esperaban otra cosa es porque ni se molestaron en leer el prefacio. La historia es la misma, la sucesión de hechos también y la evolución del romance no ha cambiado. Esta NO ES una nueva entrega en la saga sino una versión levemente diferente del original. CASI que un fanfiction (en palabras de la propia Meyer).
Así que más allá de todo eso, el libro es lo que promete ser.
-La narración es tan atrapante como hace diez años. Una vez que se empieza a leer, la forma en la que está escrito hace que no podamos soltar el libro.
-La simpleza lingüística y la incoherencia de algunas escenas es la misma que antes. Sí, los vampiros todavía van a la secundaria. Si esperan otra cosa, ni se gasten en leerlo.
-Hay claras mejoras en el desarrollo de personajes y el final es espectacular (distinto al original y mucho más lógico).
Admito que lo empecé a leer pensando que sería un fanfic mal escrito, pero pasados los primeros párrafos me encontré a mí misma TAN enganchada como la primera vez que leí Crepúsculo hace diez años.
El nuevo final ME FASCINÓ. Creo que es mil veces mejor que el original (y que todas sus secuelas). Y que si Crepúsculo hubiese sido siempre UN SOLO LIBRO en vez de una saga, habría sido mejor.
En serio, estoy MUY MUY conforme con el final y felicito a la autora por haberlo cambiado.
Si tuviera que quejarme de algo, sería de los nombres.
¿BEAUFORT? ¿QUÉ MIERDA ES ESO? Si querían que fuese parecido a Bella podrían haber puesto, no sé, Bernard. La autora quiso que sonaran parecidos al original y la verdad es que no le salió bien. No les voy a listar todos los nombres pero GOD, fueron pésimos.
EN RESUMEN: Superó todas mis expectativas.
Sé que no es un libro EXCELENTE en cuanto a calidad literaria, pero tampoco es peor que toda la mierda juvenil que anda dando vueltas por el mundo editorial. Es un libro mediocre, pero diseñado para atraer a los más jóvenes a la lectura.
Está extremadamente bien armado para el público al que apunta y no puedo juzgarlo de otra forma.
1) Si lo vas a leer desde el punto de vista de “esta mierda juvenil es toda igual”, no pierdas tiempo con la lectura.
2) Si estás buscando una nueva historia (precuela, secuela, spin-off), te pido que leas lo que puse al principio de la reseña. Esa NO ES la intención de este libro.
3) Si no leyeron los libros y vieron las películas, les digo que primero deberían ir a la saga original. LÉANLA, que es al menos un millón de veces mejor que el intento de adaptación cinematográfica que tuvo (eww, las películas de esta saga son de las peores adaptaciones que he visto).
4) Ahora bien, si en su época te gustó el libro original y estás dispuesto a ver la historia desde una nueva perspectiva, creo que te gustará.
Pueden leer la versión completa de la reseña en mi blog http://pardonmispanglish.blogspot.com/2017/01/resena-vida-y-muerte-crepusculo.html
Esta novela ES CREPÚSCULO con los personajes en roles opuestos, con los sexos cambiados. La autora lo aclaró en su blog antes de publicarlo y lo repitió luego en el prefacio de la obra.
¿Qué significa? Esta no es una NUEVA novela, sino la misma historia con pequeños cambios para responder al "qué hubiese pasado si..."
Con eso aclarado, he leído muchas reseñas que se quejan porque "es lo mismo que Crepúsculo y muchos diálogos son textuales."
¿Y QUÉ CARAJO ESPERABAN?
Eso es lo que la autora dijo que era y prometió desde un comienzo. Si esperaban otra cosa es porque ni se molestaron en leer el prefacio. La historia es la misma, la sucesión de hechos también y la evolución del romance no ha cambiado. Esta NO ES una nueva entrega en la saga sino una versión levemente diferente del original. CASI que un fanfiction (en palabras de la propia Meyer).
Así que más allá de todo eso, el libro es lo que promete ser.
-La narración es tan atrapante como hace diez años. Una vez que se empieza a leer, la forma en la que está escrito hace que no podamos soltar el libro.
-La simpleza lingüística y la incoherencia de algunas escenas es la misma que antes. Sí, los vampiros todavía van a la secundaria. Si esperan otra cosa, ni se gasten en leerlo.
-Hay claras mejoras en el desarrollo de personajes y el final es espectacular (distinto al original y mucho más lógico).
Admito que lo empecé a leer pensando que sería un fanfic mal escrito, pero pasados los primeros párrafos me encontré a mí misma TAN enganchada como la primera vez que leí Crepúsculo hace diez años.
El nuevo final ME FASCINÓ. Creo que es mil veces mejor que el original (y que todas sus secuelas). Y que si Crepúsculo hubiese sido siempre UN SOLO LIBRO en vez de una saga, habría sido mejor.
En serio, estoy MUY MUY conforme con el final y felicito a la autora por haberlo cambiado.
Si tuviera que quejarme de algo, sería de los nombres.
¿BEAUFORT? ¿QUÉ MIERDA ES ESO? Si querían que fuese parecido a Bella podrían haber puesto, no sé, Bernard. La autora quiso que sonaran parecidos al original y la verdad es que no le salió bien. No les voy a listar todos los nombres pero GOD, fueron pésimos.
EN RESUMEN: Superó todas mis expectativas.
Sé que no es un libro EXCELENTE en cuanto a calidad literaria, pero tampoco es peor que toda la mierda juvenil que anda dando vueltas por el mundo editorial. Es un libro mediocre, pero diseñado para atraer a los más jóvenes a la lectura.
Está extremadamente bien armado para el público al que apunta y no puedo juzgarlo de otra forma.
1) Si lo vas a leer desde el punto de vista de “esta mierda juvenil es toda igual”, no pierdas tiempo con la lectura.
2) Si estás buscando una nueva historia (precuela, secuela, spin-off), te pido que leas lo que puse al principio de la reseña. Esa NO ES la intención de este libro.
3) Si no leyeron los libros y vieron las películas, les digo que primero deberían ir a la saga original. LÉANLA, que es al menos un millón de veces mejor que el intento de adaptación cinematográfica que tuvo (eww, las películas de esta saga son de las peores adaptaciones que he visto).
4) Ahora bien, si en su época te gustó el libro original y estás dispuesto a ver la historia desde una nueva perspectiva, creo que te gustará.
Pueden leer la versión completa de la reseña en mi blog http://pardonmispanglish.blogspot.com/2017/01/resena-vida-y-muerte-crepusculo.html
elladan's review against another edition
lighthearted
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
lilacbleeds's review against another edition
5.0
you see the same parts from both stories but they are just a good as each other. the new one life and death is great and has a different view on things as in the end was great and in glad I have this version in book collection now
loved it
loved it
readingpisces's review against another edition
4.0
3.5 Gender bend version was not as good as the original but still enjoyable.
Young Adult as a genre is not really my thing anymore, hasn't been for a long time. But since the new book is coming out in August and I'll probably be checking that out, I thought I might refresh my memory by reading this one. It was the series that kinda got me into reading.
Young Adult as a genre is not really my thing anymore, hasn't been for a long time. But since the new book is coming out in August and I'll probably be checking that out, I thought I might refresh my memory by reading this one. It was the series that kinda got me into reading.
svillanu's review against another edition
1.0
laughable. I read it for ten minutes and then gave up. Do people actually think this is good?
cala_p's review against another edition
I was iffy starting this but i gave it a shot. Managed to get 10% in before i just couldnt anymore. I cant read without putting the Twilight characters into the spots taken by their gender swapped counterparts. I know theres supposed to be slight changes to the story but what ive read so far was word for word Twilight and i just cant.
While i really like the Twilight series i just cant get into this
While i really like the Twilight series i just cant get into this
lobinha_fototeta's review against another edition
5.0
I love the Twilight Saga, so I loved this book as well.