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afroheaux's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
I finished this book in one sitting. It was a wonderful and strange ride. I did read it before, about five years ago. I remember loving the style of writing, but not truly absorbing the book itself and its contents. With this read, I can see the girls so clearly and I don't understand why when I read this book earlier (and watched the movie which I also love), I didn't understand why the girls acted the way that they did. I almost found myself agreeing with the final paragraphs of the book because I couldn't put my finger on the reasoning for the events of the book. I was taking the hive teenage boy brain's opinion as my own. Now that I've studied more history, crime, and psychology, I was able to see the situation for what it was.
It's a group of men speaking as their teenage selves as they dive into what has become their life's mystery to solve: the suicides of the Lisbon sisters. Do note that this is a mid to late 1970s teenage boy's brain. There's a lot of misogyny in here as well as instances of boys doing insane shit due to their obsession with the sisters. Their "investigation" is only possible because they stalked them. Be prepared to hear racist, classist, and overall dated language. People of color are not treated as human beings in most scenes in this book, black people especially.
The absurdity and obsessive nature of these boys are also part of the appeal for me. It's so raw. The depth of the descriptions of the mundanity of it all amongst the chaos of being a teenager. They do not spare you their teenage thoughts or strange happenings. I would give it five stars, but I can only give so much to a man's account of five teenage girls. Their analysis was naive and misguided, sometimes cruel and insulting. The way they marveled over the girls but were also seemingly hopeless to save them from their fate. You watch a family of abused children and a controlling mother come apart before your eyes even though the narrators are not describing it as such. The girls are more mirages than anything else, molding into whatever piles of pillows the boys had laying next to them.
For example, when Trip has sex with Lux on the football field and she starts crying, he recalls later how he instantly was done with his obsession with her. The moment she was a human being before in him, in the flesh, the fantasy could no longer continue. I can't imagine how that must've felt for Lux. This person who was dogged in their pursuit of you, who you thought could find some solace in after years of isolation, turns away the moment you show yourself to him. Was it any wonder she wanted to lose herself in anyone who looked her way? When you think about what those girls were going through in that house, it's overwhelming to digest.
The boys say their decision was selfish, but it was the only option they saw that was good for them. They were being left to rot by a mother who didn't want to take care of them anymore. Yet at the same time refused to let them live any other way. A way that could've saved their lives. It's a heartbreaking story about what happens when parents don't let children be human.
"We just want to live. If anyone would let us. ” - Therese Lisbon
It's a group of men speaking as their teenage selves as they dive into what has become their life's mystery to solve: the suicides of the Lisbon sisters. Do note that this is a mid to late 1970s teenage boy's brain. There's a lot of misogyny in here as well as instances of boys doing insane shit due to their obsession with the sisters. Their "investigation" is only possible because they stalked them. Be prepared to hear racist, classist, and overall dated language. People of color are not treated as human beings in most scenes in this book, black people especially.
The absurdity and obsessive nature of these boys are also part of the appeal for me. It's so raw. The depth of the descriptions of the mundanity of it all amongst the chaos of being a teenager. They do not spare you their teenage thoughts or strange happenings. I would give it five stars, but I can only give so much to a man's account of five teenage girls. Their analysis was naive and misguided, sometimes cruel and insulting. The way they marveled over the girls but were also seemingly hopeless to save them from their fate. You watch a family of abused children and a controlling mother come apart before your eyes even though the narrators are not describing it as such. The girls are more mirages than anything else, molding into whatever piles of pillows the boys had laying next to them.
The boys say their decision was selfish, but it was the only option they saw that was good for them. They were being left to rot by a mother who didn't want to take care of them anymore. Yet at the same time refused to let them live any other way. A way that could've saved their lives. It's a heartbreaking story about what happens when parents don't let children be human.
"We just want to live. If anyone would let us. ” - Therese Lisbon
Content Warnings
Graphic: Confinement, Death, Emotional abuse, Self harm, Stalking, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
ptitirodactyle's review against another edition
dark
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Grief, Suicide, Stalking, Child death, Suicide attempt, Child abuse, Misogyny, and Self harm
Moderate: Sexual content
Minor: Medical content, Drug use, Pedophilia, Alcohol, and Pregnancy
reginahafner_'s review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Suicide and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Sexual content, Stalking, and Grief
zuuizai's review against another edition
dark
emotional
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.5
Pointless would be the best way to describe this book. While the concept was brilliant, it was so poorly executed that it was painful to get through. The beginning started off promising, but rapidly went downhill. The boys' objectification of the girls was uncomfortable, and did not achieve what it was meant to. It was extremely slow. The fact that the first sister's death took 200 pages and the others were only given a poorly described paragraph didn't help. Eugenides also described the house in which the girls lived in, and portrayed the house deteriorating as the family fell apart. This would have been nice, if the house wasn't mentioned in nearly every page, with unnecessary details. If the house description was removed, this book would only be 80 pages long.
Overall it was a slow, dull read which is perfect for putting you to sleep.
Overall it was a slow, dull read which is perfect for putting you to sleep.
Content Warnings
Minor: Suicide and Stalking
phillyhufflepunk's review against another edition
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
I cried...but not from sadness. I cried in frustration. This is one of the starkest tragedies ever written, told from the perspective of selfish, inane narrators - under the delusion that they are somehow a part of the story. With each new development, they...and the self-involved upper middle class d bags that they spawned from...fail the Lisbon girls. Over and over and over, the community has opportunity to step in, but they don't. As these boys chronicle the downward spiral of their Manic Pixie Dream Girls, they continuously miss the moments in which they actually could have saved them. The boys literally run out of the house after finding one of the girls dead without checking on any of the others, in spite of the fact that they were there to save them in the first place AND that they were about to let Lux do one or all of them just 10 minutes earlier.
The Lisbon Girls deserved better, and although the story would have been 10x better from their perspectives, I still rate it 4 stars because by hearing the story from a bunch of clueless middle aged men, who were clueless teenaged boys, you see just how ignored these girls felt when they were practically SCREAMING for help.
The Lisbon Girls deserved better, and although the story would have been 10x better from their perspectives, I still rate it 4 stars because by hearing the story from a bunch of clueless middle aged men, who were clueless teenaged boys, you see just how ignored these girls felt when they were practically SCREAMING for help.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Blood, Chronic illness, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Toxic friendship, Suicide attempt, Self harm, Racism, Physical abuse, Pedophilia, Misogyny, Mental illness, Medical trauma, Medical content, Injury/Injury detail, Grief, Abandonment, Adult/minor relationship, Child death, Confinement, Emotional abuse, Gaslighting, Suicidal thoughts, Stalking, Sexual content, Racial slurs, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Body horror, Child abuse, Classism, Eating disorder, Toxic relationship, and Suicide
efnelson12's review against another edition
challenging
dark
reflective
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Suicide, Child abuse, Stalking, and Sexual content
saoreads's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Its gruesome details are described as prosaic and poetic, with the metaphorical lines humming along the monstrosity of taking one's own life. It gave statistical inputs and the relating aspects of typical boys' adolescence, making it literally impossible to forget their first loves. The voyeurism was in one point of view, yet with the other it was the same too, though the latter didn't get to live long. After years and decades of searching for the "why", it somehow led to a point of redundancy, evidence, bias, and notions agreeing with the deed itself. That growing up sucks and daydreaming is better. Life wasn't in their control, so they took matters into their own hands, though it spoke of unrelenting grief hanging to a thread and plenty of factors no one might've noted. The fact that the parent's way of putting up their children suffocated them, or it might have stemmed from a faulty gene (or so they say, and to the extremes of five of them all?), or they took religion in their own different interpretations, there are plenty of what ifs that arise. However, the decision made brought agony and awful influence to their surroundings. It's one to assess yet not to act upon.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Suicide, Toxic relationship, Deadnaming, Confinement, Self harm, Suicide attempt, Vomit, Body horror, Child death, Gore, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Mental illness, Stalking, Death, Alcohol, Blood, and Suicidal thoughts
fancymcgee's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
you know, i love to emphasize with female characters, but their mother was a villain. the story is told from the perspective of an outsider, but as you read you know something is happening inside those walls that you will never fully grasp. i also don’t love the language the boys use for the girls, but in the end when they realize that they truly didn’t know these girls and romantized people they never truly met, was good. first opening this book, i didn’t know that i would finish it, if i even wanted to. putting it down, i just feel hollow and angry. maybe that was the authors intent, to leave you feeling like even though you were essentially one of the boys looking in on this sad family, you would never understand what happened behind closed doors. can’t say i loved or hated this book. can’t even say i loved those girls, cause did we ever even know them?
“daughters of the community”
“daughters of the community”
Content Warnings
Graphic: Grief, Misogyny, Death, Child death, Injury/Injury detail, Emotional abuse, Drug abuse, Adult/minor relationship, Medical content, Blood, Suicide attempt, Body horror, Self harm, Stalking, Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, Mental illness, and Medical trauma
Minor: Racial slurs
icarusandthesun's review against another edition
challenging
dark
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.0
horrible book - extremely boring, no real plot, long unimportant descriptions and uninteresting details. i'm very angry and very disappointed.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gore, Grief, Mental illness, Suicide attempt, Stalking, Blood, Child death, and Suicide
Minor: Alcohol, Medical content, and Pregnancy
pissfox's review against another edition
dark
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Child death, Suicide, Stalking, and Grief
Minor: Alcohol