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3.92 AVERAGE
3.92 AVERAGE
This is a somewhat disturbing but really interesting book. A sci-fi? fantasy? in which women have the power and sexism is a way of life for men. Thought-provoking.
Reading Egalia's Daughters (in Danish) brought back the language of the 70s. I remember reading an article in the late 70s where political correctness was spoken about for the first time. (I wish I had kept that newsclipping - some female New York journalist reporting from that hotbed of radicalism - University of California at Berkeley - my parents' alma mater, by the way.)
The language of the 70s was not all that refined and polished. It was often in-your-face and that was intentional. They were breaking down the known to experiment with something new. The choppiness I found in this book was mostly in the chronology. It didn't flow. Suddenly you figured out that several years had passed. If the transitions were smoother, this book would have been brilliant. Scary, but brilliantly constructed. As it is, hats off to the author for changing the language as she did. I read this in Danish, which I think would be close to the Norwegian. Now I really want to find out how it reads in English because what she did was masterful. She took every reference, however slight, to female and male terms in a word and reversed it. On occasion, she made up words to replace what looked like a sexually biased word. There is a word "kvindemenneske" that is slightly derogatory about women. I cannot think of an English equivalent. It's a double word made from kvinde + menneske: woman + human/person. Well, menneske has a hint of man in it, so that is changed to "kvindeske". Therefore "all people" becomes "kvindeske" and this derogatory term therefore becomes "herrekvindeske": man + human/person. Sorry, I think is lost in translation, but I think it is well done. She is basically using the language to the utmost to make you work so you realise how much inherent bias there is in words. I got really stuck on "herken", the reverse of "frøken" (miss). "Frøken" is the diminutive of "frue" ("Frau" in German). If mister is herre, then the diminutive must be... herken. The word "herken" looks a lot like the word for neither: hverken. Therefore, every time I read "herken Uglemose, the teacher", I read "neither Uglemose, the teacher"! Why am I going on about this? Because the language really is integral to her satire. Just as feminists played with the language in the 70s, Brantenberg also plays with the language to shove it in our face and wake us up to how we use it or abuse it to suit our various needs. It's awkward to read and awkward to think about. But that is part of the entire reading process. The author is leaving no stone unturned in this satire!
As for the story, it is quite amusing at first. It's funny to read how the men spend hours caring for and curling their breads. Things get awkward at what I can only call the mating rituals. Kind of like debutante balls, but where you get to try the goods and shop around... The main character is Petronius, a young boy when the book opens. As his story unfolds, the author attacks the sexism in "our world" through the language and behaviour in his society. Some things become creepy when you realise what situations she is juxtaposing in a particular episode - like sexual harassment or worse. I had images of the 1950s running through my head in certain parts - the man as the head of the household with the wife happily ironing at home and being the happy homemaker. Only here the woman is the head of the household and the husband was happy in the background ironing and taking care of the children. Women take on male characteristics completely in this story. Nothing about a more balanced viewpoint. No, they are women who are rough and tumble and hard-hitting. They like their cigars in their men-free clubs and they like pornography with men who have very large, fat tummies and very tiny... appendages. I did see one reviewer comment on how the book made her angry. I didn't read why (not yet), but I see how she might feel that. Maybe I wasn't as shocked or angered because I could see what she was doing and I understood the tricks. What could make me very angry is how some of the attitudes that are being mocked in this satire still exist in our society today. That is not so great for a book that is 35 years old. There was an ad for a cigarette aimed at women back in the 1970s. Their slogan was "we've come a long way, baby". Unfortunately, when you stop and think about some of the issues in this book, you can see that we still have a way to go in some areas. The issue is world-wide so where inroads might have been made in one part of the world, another part of the world hasn't even started.
I think this is a well-done satire that should be read at minimum for the historical perspective - it's from 1977. Next, you can read it for the interesting experiment it is: what happens when you turn things upside down. You might think some things are missing. For example, there are really only two genders here. Homosexuality is discussed, but transgender issues aren't. I think that might be a practical simplification. I think satire works best when it is fairly simple, so too many factors might have cluttered the message and made it harder to write the book.
I found the typography to be a bit annoying, but it's a victim of its time: 1980. Just a passing mention of that. It added a bit to the flavour of the time, however.
The language of the 70s was not all that refined and polished. It was often in-your-face and that was intentional. They were breaking down the known to experiment with something new. The choppiness I found in this book was mostly in the chronology. It didn't flow. Suddenly you figured out that several years had passed. If the transitions were smoother, this book would have been brilliant. Scary, but brilliantly constructed. As it is, hats off to the author for changing the language as she did. I read this in Danish, which I think would be close to the Norwegian. Now I really want to find out how it reads in English because what she did was masterful. She took every reference, however slight, to female and male terms in a word and reversed it. On occasion, she made up words to replace what looked like a sexually biased word. There is a word "kvindemenneske" that is slightly derogatory about women. I cannot think of an English equivalent. It's a double word made from kvinde + menneske: woman + human/person. Well, menneske has a hint of man in it, so that is changed to "kvindeske". Therefore "all people" becomes "kvindeske" and this derogatory term therefore becomes "herrekvindeske": man + human/person. Sorry, I think is lost in translation, but I think it is well done. She is basically using the language to the utmost to make you work so you realise how much inherent bias there is in words. I got really stuck on "herken", the reverse of "frøken" (miss). "Frøken" is the diminutive of "frue" ("Frau" in German). If mister is herre, then the diminutive must be... herken. The word "herken" looks a lot like the word for neither: hverken. Therefore, every time I read "herken Uglemose, the teacher", I read "neither Uglemose, the teacher"! Why am I going on about this? Because the language really is integral to her satire. Just as feminists played with the language in the 70s, Brantenberg also plays with the language to shove it in our face and wake us up to how we use it or abuse it to suit our various needs. It's awkward to read and awkward to think about. But that is part of the entire reading process. The author is leaving no stone unturned in this satire!
As for the story, it is quite amusing at first. It's funny to read how the men spend hours caring for and curling their breads. Things get awkward at what I can only call the mating rituals. Kind of like debutante balls, but where you get to try the goods and shop around... The main character is Petronius, a young boy when the book opens. As his story unfolds, the author attacks the sexism in "our world" through the language and behaviour in his society. Some things become creepy when you realise what situations she is juxtaposing in a particular episode - like sexual harassment or worse. I had images of the 1950s running through my head in certain parts - the man as the head of the household with the wife happily ironing at home and being the happy homemaker. Only here the woman is the head of the household and the husband was happy in the background ironing and taking care of the children. Women take on male characteristics completely in this story. Nothing about a more balanced viewpoint. No, they are women who are rough and tumble and hard-hitting. They like their cigars in their men-free clubs and they like pornography with men who have very large, fat tummies and very tiny... appendages. I did see one reviewer comment on how the book made her angry. I didn't read why (not yet), but I see how she might feel that. Maybe I wasn't as shocked or angered because I could see what she was doing and I understood the tricks. What could make me very angry is how some of the attitudes that are being mocked in this satire still exist in our society today. That is not so great for a book that is 35 years old. There was an ad for a cigarette aimed at women back in the 1970s. Their slogan was "we've come a long way, baby". Unfortunately, when you stop and think about some of the issues in this book, you can see that we still have a way to go in some areas. The issue is world-wide so where inroads might have been made in one part of the world, another part of the world hasn't even started.
I think this is a well-done satire that should be read at minimum for the historical perspective - it's from 1977. Next, you can read it for the interesting experiment it is: what happens when you turn things upside down. You might think some things are missing. For example, there are really only two genders here. Homosexuality is discussed, but transgender issues aren't. I think that might be a practical simplification. I think satire works best when it is fairly simple, so too many factors might have cluttered the message and made it harder to write the book.
I found the typography to be a bit annoying, but it's a victim of its time: 1980. Just a passing mention of that. It added a bit to the flavour of the time, however.
This was a fantastically written satire! The adjustment of pronouns, reversal of typical gender roles for issues such as abuse, homemaking, and work, and the representation of media and literacy censorship in schools were fantastically written. I had to read this for a class rather than a decision I just decided to make, and ended up reading it in one sitting because I had an assignment on it due the next day, but I'm very glad I got to read it! It got me thinking and made me uncomfortable at times, and that's how you know a satire is well-written.
Eeehm.. vet att det är en satir, och tror den skrevs på 70-talet så blev lite hjärngympa att försöka förstå samhället då, men del 1, wtf? Tror aldrig vi haft baler för att pimpa ut 15åriga flickor. Svårt att uppskatta budskapet när den mest är groteskt i början. Del 2 tog sig innehållsmässigt dock, där väckte den ilskan och frustrationen på det sätt jag tror den avsåg. Lite raljerande ibland men ger en 4 för avsikten och kreativiteten.
et si l'on vivait dans une société entièrement matriarcale, dans laquelle les hommes seraient en tous points opprimés par les femmes ?
c'est ce que nous permet d'imaginer Gerd Brantenberg, qui nous embarque sur l'île d'Égalie, totalement maitressisée par la gente féminine.
Les Filles d'Égalie, paru en 1977, est une véritable satire de la société contemporaine qui, même plus de 40 ans après sa publication, est toujours aussi atrocement d'actualité.
Brantenberg ébranle les esprits, en présentant une société tout à fait inverse à celle que nous connaissons. drôle, le livre nous rappelle pourtant que le cas inverse n'est ni risible ni choquant de nos jours.
un ouvrage nécessaire pour comprendre enfin l'ampleur du patriarcat, et l'intense violence qu'il monopolise dans toutes les sphères, autant d'un prisme socio-économique que linguistique.
c'est ce que nous permet d'imaginer Gerd Brantenberg, qui nous embarque sur l'île d'Égalie, totalement maitressisée par la gente féminine.
Les Filles d'Égalie, paru en 1977, est une véritable satire de la société contemporaine qui, même plus de 40 ans après sa publication, est toujours aussi atrocement d'actualité.
Brantenberg ébranle les esprits, en présentant une société tout à fait inverse à celle que nous connaissons. drôle, le livre nous rappelle pourtant que le cas inverse n'est ni risible ni choquant de nos jours.
un ouvrage nécessaire pour comprendre enfin l'ampleur du patriarcat, et l'intense violence qu'il monopolise dans toutes les sphères, autant d'un prisme socio-économique que linguistique.
challenging
reflective
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
N/A
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
Coup de cœur absolu ! Bienvenue en Égalie, cette société purement matriarcale où l’homme est opprimé. Tout est brillamment ficelé, aucun aspect de la société n’est épargné (language, amour, sexe, état civil, carrière, politique…). Si ce livre vous paraît dérangeant ou d’un féminisme forcé à l’extrême, c’est que vous n’avez pas assez bien observé la société actuelle. La prouesse de l’autrice est que tout paraît scandaleux alors que le système qu’elle décrit est un simple miroir. Elle le prouve d’ailleurs à la fin du roman, en reprenant la scène d’ouverture du livre à l’identique, en inversant cette fois les genres. Bien entendu ce système ne peut perdurer, et un petit groupe d’hommes va se soulever. Absolument culte.
dark
reflective
sad
tense
fast-paced