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3.98 AVERAGE
3.98 AVERAGE
Phenomenal! I love everything about this book. Deep cut polyglot Church lore, monastic mystery, fanaticism and semiotics. Cannot wait to re-read this one once some of the details have faded. 10/10
Didn't care for this one. Too wordy. Like an over explained Sherlock Holmes.
challenging
dark
mysterious
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Complicated
Loveable characters:
Yes
An all time classic. Spent all of August re reading it and I regret nothing.
adventurous
dark
mysterious
reflective
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
challenging
dark
mysterious
reflective
sad
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
Content Warnings
Graphic: Torture, Violence, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Homophobia, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual content, Antisemitism, Islamophobia, Outing
Minor: Animal cruelty, Body horror, Dementia, Colonisation
amazingly written, took a while to get into but the mystery is so good!! most of the theological and philosophical debates went over my head, but i still loved it regardless
lighthearted
fast-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
I have enjoyed what I have encountered of Eco's ideas around list-making (The Infinity of Lists). I thought I dug him on books and libraries, but maybe I have him muddled with Borges there.
Of course both concepts hit me while reading TNOTR. On the latter, the guy has obviously read a lot, and thinks a lot about writing and books and libraries. Those are right in my wheelhouse. But, on the former, he just goes on and on, and I couldn't follow the great many characters in the abbey, let alone how they related to the geopolitics, about which it assumed way too much.
So it didn't succeed for me insofar it's an exhibition of erudition, far overdone.
Of course both concepts hit me while reading TNOTR. On the latter, the guy has obviously read a lot, and thinks a lot about writing and books and libraries. Those are right in my wheelhouse. But, on the former, he just goes on and on, and I couldn't follow the great many characters in the abbey, let alone how they related to the geopolitics, about which it assumed way too much.
So it didn't succeed for me insofar it's an exhibition of erudition, far overdone.
Actually what I'm probably remembering is mostly a project called '1002' which was essentially a send-up of TNOTR as a Doctor Who story. It involved a monastery, certes, but set in Burgundy at the time that King Robert of France staked his (successful) claim to that historic territory. It also involved a young, stranded alien creature (what is it with DW and space animals leaving their litters all over Earth?) which warps Time as a defence mechanism while waiting for its Mum to come and pick it up. There are burnings. Hence the subtitle, Arson Planet. As to this novel I did wonder about the apparent dig at JL Borges who I thought everyone had down as a good egg, as generally liked as Bob Ross only without the hair and the happy little trees.
challenging
reflective
tense
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
An intriguing murder mystery, happening amongst the ecclesiastical politics of the early 14th century.
The pace of the story at the start is slow. If you don't like the idea of a book set in this time, the quality of the murder mystery is probably not good enough to overcome this.
For anyone with some knowledge of Latin, the book also provides a good opportunity to test this!
The pace of the story at the start is slow. If you don't like the idea of a book set in this time, the quality of the murder mystery is probably not good enough to overcome this.
For anyone with some knowledge of Latin, the book also provides a good opportunity to test this!
dark
mysterious
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Les 100 premières pages ont été difficiles pour rentrer dans l'histoire, entre essayer de comprendre qui parle, le vocabulaire très riche et l'exposition politique et ecclésiastique de l'époque. Mais d'une part cela m'a permis de me rendre compte de ma tendance à lire le plus vite possible, ce qui n'était pas compatible avec ce livre. Une fois cela réalisé, je me suis forcé a prendre mon temps pour bien lire tout le mivre doucement et bien comprendre tout ce qui était dit. Et d'autre part, une fois ces 100 pages passées, l'histoire s'est déroulée beaucoup plus facilement. Si on exclut les passages en latin, qui étaient là juste pour me torturer je pense.
Pour ce qui est de l'intrigue, elle n'était pas facile à suivre. Entre les intrigues politiques, le contexte papal et le nombre de personnages et tous qui se lient entre eux. Cependant, au fur et à mesure de la progression de l'histoire, c'esr devenu plus facile à suivre (c'est grâce a tous ceux qui mourraient ça). Et bien que j'ai reussi à voir venir deux ou trois retournements de situations, les révélations finales sont restées surprenantes pour moi... et compliquées, on va pas se mentir.
Et pour ce qui est de la toute fin, on est sur une fin plus ou moins ouverte, avec des dernières lignes qui m'ont laissée perplexe... heureusement qu'il y avait le mot de l'auteur après (qui a pas expliqué grand chose mais il a le mérite de m'avoir donné un filet d'espoir).
Pour ce qui est de l'intrigue, elle n'était pas facile à suivre. Entre les intrigues politiques, le contexte papal et le nombre de personnages et tous qui se lient entre eux. Cependant, au fur et à mesure de la progression de l'histoire, c'esr devenu plus facile à suivre (c'est grâce a tous ceux qui mourraient ça). Et bien que j'ai reussi à voir venir deux ou trois retournements de situations, les révélations finales sont restées surprenantes pour moi... et compliquées, on va pas se mentir.
Et pour ce qui est de la toute fin, on est sur une fin plus ou moins ouverte, avec des dernières lignes qui m'ont laissée perplexe... heureusement qu'il y avait le mot de l'auteur après (qui a pas expliqué grand chose mais il a le mérite de m'avoir donné un filet d'espoir).