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I have no idea how to rate this book. I listened to the audiobook. Saskia Maarleveld did an amazing job, as per usual. But the story itself... It was fine? I think part of it was what usually happens when I listen to fantasy on audiobook (for the first time) -- I miss a lot as I go about my day. And I'm fairly slumpy right now. But at the same time, it lacked something that made me look forward to listen to it every day. I think the story was solid enough for me to keep going, for sure, but not enough to love it. It was very gruesome and dark, so beware. The romance was not particularly moving, but I like how they connected by the end. The mythology and lore parts of the story are pulled from is interesting.

I liked it okay but definitely won't reread it. I'm hoping Ava Reid's other books are better. 😬

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iftheshoef1tz's review against another edition

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I wanted, so bad, to like this book. The premise is super interesting, and though it’s in first person present, it’s not bad. It’s gory and dark, and the brutality of this world is not left to the imagination.

However.

Instead of letting the relationship between Evike and Gaspar develop more naturally, Reid just beats you with the “he’s actually good” way to early in the book. There is good, believable animosity between them to start, and while I think the bargain between them

to not tell Evike the truth until the end

is just a lazy way of being like “no just keep reading, i promise i’ll explain it,” it at least makes sense and forces them into proximity. (Only one tree root nest! Only one tree root nest!) I would have preferred all these “hints” about Gaspar’s goodness have been withheld or not so easily seen by Evike and instead have the thaw begin when

they talk about their respective dead moms.

It was just too much too early on, and so much of Evike’s narration was spent trying to convince me to feel strongly about this pairing instead of just…letting me feel what I feel.

It also felt very “here is a tale about legends in our world! Sounds fake!” And then they live/experience the folklore, and then there is a moral. Too much monster of the week schtick, too many similes.

Tropes:
Folklore-inspired
Will-they-won’t-they (obviously they will)
Not like other girls
Not like other princes

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immovabletype's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.25

man, i thought this was going to be a solid 4 stars for a good chunk of the novel, while we're following the two main characters on a quest of sorts. this is hate-to-love, and throughout their journey they're grappling with preconceptions about each other based on centuries of hatred and oppression between their people (the fantasy is very cleverly based on pagan, christian, and jewish mythology, with all the attendant real world conflicts--the author "has a degree in political science . . . focusing on religion and ethnonationalism" and her expertise shows). grappling while wanting to grapple each other, if you know what i mean. it makes for a very intimate narrative, slow-paced but propulsive . . . but then the journey ends, the world opens up, and our two lovers are separated. what was compelling me to keep reading just kind of dropped out of sight for a while and i found it harder to pick up as much as i had been, and even after they were reunited it never quite got that spark back for me. and then i loathed the epilogue.

idk. there were things that happened in the latter part of the book that i liked and i think were necessary to forward the narrative and themes. however. it just could've been done better. i will also say, this is sold as adult fantasy. i would argue it feels a lot more ya. the heroine is almost a classic ya heroine, the tropes are very ya tropes. these aren't necessarily bad things, but that's not gonna work for everyone, so i wanted to make a note of it.

i did enjoy this for the most part, i'm glad i read it because now i know that ava reid is gonna knock it out of the park for me someday (this was a debut). i'm quite looking forward to reading more from her.

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triley's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

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srze's review against another edition

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adventurous mysterious medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Plot
Strong character development? No
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.5

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archiveofrasa's review against another edition

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adventurous dark tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.0

The main aspects that stood out to me were the world-building and religious themes, plus the fairytale/folklore sort of writing style I know Reid has. I don't think I've ever really read something that wasn't purely historical that puts an emphasis on religious themes of a fantasy world, so I think the author did a good job on that.

But I'm not sure why I didn't enjoy this book as much. It did take me quite a while to finish it and I grew pretty exhausted, which might be the reason why my enjoyment dwindled over time. I'm not sure if that is the book's fault or mine. The ending was really nice, linking all the stories Évike told to her being able to write them down. Very sweet.

This is also a pretty gruesome book. It doesn't really hold back, so check the content warnings.

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i did enjoy what i've seen of the lore/world building so far, the stories about deities thar the main character tells were interesting. and i liked the allegory on religion as a supremacist tool of oppression. but other than those, i haven't found anything else riveting enough to make me keep going. and the further i went into it, the more i lose interest so eventually i decided to just stop.

one of the major points of the story is to show that despite the main character's glaring differences with the love interest, they do have similarities and that they're significant enough for them to somehow be able to build understanding and even trust off of. but try as i might, i'm just not convinced.

my main issue with this is that gáspár and his people's views and treatment of évike's community is decidedly *not* on equal playing field as her people's contempt (and fear!) of the woodsmen, yet the narrative treats these two things as though they are. the woodsmen by order of the king literally aims to commit (if not already are committing) genocide on evike's people when all they want is to be left alone to live freely just like everybody else. her resentment and fear of him come from a real and valid place while his views and contempt of her come from lies propagated by power-hungry and bigoted people like the king and his brother who's seeking the throne. there is power at play in this world at large that is in favor of gáspár. no matter how badly he is being treated by his own blood and people, he will *never* experience the same cruelty that his king of a father and he himself as a woodsman bestow upon évike's community, at least not for the same reason. that's privilege and yet he never even deigns to acknowledge it.

also the "difference" they have? i wouldn't call it that, as they're not matters of personal taste on some frivolous thing. évike *belongs* to an oppressed group (shunned though she was within it) while gáspár is an *active agent* of oppression against said group. that this keeps being *glossed over* every time the "similarities" of their personal situations are brought up doesn't sit right with me. maybe it will be addressed later on but at this point, i don't want to wait and see if it will be different farther down the line anymore.

which brings me to my next point: those things considered, i don't get how évike was already entertaining thoughts about how attractive gáspár is so soon into the story. his behavior and views of her community are not something one simply gets past behind, no matter how aesthetically that person might be. i can kind of get the idea of forced proximity playing a part on their "mutual attraction" but i just can't wrap my head around how soon she was entertaining thoughts of how handsome he is, considering he hasn't even yet shown that he's trustworthy or at the very least open-minded enough to be willing to listen and learn from her experience of his people. yet somehow she already looks at him somewhat favorably,

enough to have had sex with him

? i don't buy it.

anyways, comparing this book to naomi novik's spinning silver and katherine arden's the bear and the nightingale—both my all-time favorites!—is certainly... a choice. all i'm saying is whoever came up with that idea doesn't know what they're talking about. this is as similar to those two books as flipflops are similar to dress shoes.

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