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Babel: An Arcane History by R.F. Kuang

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charleyyyyy's review against another edition

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3.5

I have mixed feelings on this book. It had its strong points and it had its weak points.

I can definitely see why there is so much hype around this book. Most people will agree that it's strongest point is the theme of colonialism, racist systems as a whole, and the violence and action needed to combat it. It certainly packs a punch. And a kick. And another punch. It never shys away from making a strong statement and saying what needs to be said. 
However, there is a lack of nuance in the way this theme is writen, it was all telling no showing. Everything is told to you, the reader has no opportunity to think on these things for themselves. Also the ending contradicts everything the book was trying to say??? 

I liked the magic system. It was realy well developed and so subtle that it felt like it could almost be real. It blended in realy well with this story and its setting. 

The plot started out slow, and a tad boring, but it builds into something compulsively readable and heartbreaking. It's clear that so much research went into this book, and while I admire that, the information was often dumped on us. This made the book feel quite dense. 

The charicters were underdeveloped, which greatly impacted my enjoyment of this book.
 I could not tell you a thing about Victoire's personality, which is an issue because of how much of an important charicter she is. Rami is my favourite charicter, and even him I don't feel like I know beyond a surface level. Even our main charicter, Robin, was lacking in depth. There was supposed to be a strong moral dilemma Robin was going through, but he wasn't developed enough for it to be convincing. His charicter development was interesting, but again not as good as it could have been, if he was a more fleshed out charicter.
I did not feel the strong bond they were supposed to have as a group, which is an issue when the bond starts to break. How can I feel the bond breaking if i didn't feel the bond in the first place? At one point one of the charicters says to another "we would have died for you" and I was like really??? I was not getting the feeling that they were that close at all, this was so unbelievable.

My biggest issue with this book was how Ramy was treated, and the queer baiting. 
Ramy and Robin had something going on between them that was definitely more than friendship, but nothing is ever confirmed or said outright. On either their feelings for each other or their sexualitys. It's a 'not confirmed, not denied' situation, which is sooooo frustrating. I literally googled " is Ramy from Babel queer?" and even google couldnt confirm or deny. Its in the context but not explicit :( (This is incredibly similar to what happened with a charicter from Kuang's other series, the Poppy War trilogy, with Chaghan and Altan. I also had to google if they were queer, and got no answer.) And then it gets worse;
because Ramy is killed. Its 'bury your gays' at its finest. The queer(coded, unconfirmed) charicter is killed before we get any development or confirmation on his queerness or his and Robins relationship. And its so frustrating. The bury your gays trope, and queer baiting is getting old. Also, the Indian (queer?) charicter is murdered by the white girl for the M.C's development, and for what??? The white person wins and the queer poc sufferers in this situation. I hated the ending. The queer (???) Poc charicters die and they dont even win bc of it. Why didnt they fight for their right to live??? And then Robin must sacrifice  himself??? why was this the ending???? The trope of the POC charicters dying/getting sacrificed so the white people can develope as charicters is so harmful??? This ending contradicts  everythring the book was trying to say in the begining.
 

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ericius's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging informative inspiring reflective tense slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.0

 Double review Italian-English

ITA:
Un Fantasy non Fantasy 
 
Questo libro mi suscita sentimenti contrastanti. 
Iniziando con aspetti positivi, il libro è scritto veramente bene scorrevole e non particolarmente pesante nonostante sia la mole non indifferente di pagine (600 nella versione italiana) con una moltitudine di note a piè di pagina e lezioni di etimologia continue per tutto il libro. 
Si nota tantissimo la ricerca su questi fronti e la cura maniacale di questa materia. 
Tuttavia non tutto in questo libro gode della stessa cura nella ricerca, ed è qui che iniziano le note dolenti; 
 
Come dico nel titolo questo libro è un fantasy, è infatti quello il motivo principale che mi aveva portato a leggere, tuttavia, nonostante è abbastanza chiaro che ci siano elementi magici questo libro non sembra un fantasy e non trasmette assolutamente niente di quello che ti aspetteresti da questo genere, se all’inizio non capivo perché, con il tempo ho capito: tutto quello che fa la magia infatti è essere un espediente per traino e giustificazione della storia costruita dall’autrice; 
 
Manca infatti un effetto nel mondo circostante, 
Il mondo è una replica quasi fedele del 1800 inglese e non si capisce fino a che estensione la magia modifica il mondo intorno (si parla ma non si mostra per lo più) in più l’intero funzionamento della magia è talmente giustificato e costruito a tavolino che taglia di netto la sensazione di incredulità che genera normalmente la magia, 
Il risultato è un mondo noioso in cui la costruzione del “Magico” non modifica in nessun modo quello che conosciamo. 
Che l’autrice si fosse data la zappa sui piedi sulla costruzione del mondo magico lo si capisce da subito aprendo il libro, quando con una nota iniziale mette le mani avanti su tutte le libertà che si è presa nella Oxford storica per aggiustarla per il proprio progetto, quasi come se non fosse autorizzata a modificare il mondo per una narrazione fantasy, o come se i lettori non avessero l’elasticità mentale necessaria per accettare un qualcosa di troppo distante dalla realtà (forse mi viene da ipotizzare questa elasticità mentale manca proprio all’autrice). 
Ho letto diverse recensioni che alzano problemi anche con la modalità linguistica con cui l’autrice tratta il razzismo, ma mi rifiuto di addentrarmi nella materia in quanto non sono abbastanza preparata per esprimermi. 
 
Per concludere: Non è quello che mi aspettavo di leggere e non sono soddisfatta, ma non è un cattivo libro; il finale è alcune scelte di trama non sono il mio genere ma su quelle posso tranquillamente sorvolare. 


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A non-fantasy fantasy
 
This book gives me mixed feelings.
Starting with positive aspects, the book is really well written, it is smooth and not particularly heavy to read, despite the considerable amount of pages (600 in the Italian version) with a multitude of footnotes and etymology lessons that continue for the whole book.
The research in these areas and the obsessive attention to this subject are very noticeable.
However, not everything in this book enjoys the same attention to research, and this is where the sore points begin;

As I say in the title, this book is a fantasy, that is in fact the main reason that led me to read it, however, although it is absolutely quite clear that there are magical elements, this book does not feel like a fantasy and does not convey anything of what you expect from this genre, if at the beginning I didn't understand why, over time I understood: in fact, all that magic does is to be an expedient to drive and justify the story constructed by the author;

In fact, the effect that magic should bring to the surrounding world is missing,
The world is an almost faithful replica of England in the 1800s and it is not clear to what extent magic modifies the world around (it is mostly talked about but not shown) plus the entire functioning of magic is so justified and planned almost arbitrarily that cuts off the feeling of disbelief that magic normally generates,
The result is a boring world in which the construction of the "Magic" does not change in any way what we know.
That the author had shot herself in the foot with the construction of the magical world can be understood immediately upon opening the book, when with an initial note she lays out all the liberties she has taken in historic Oxford to adjust it for her own project, almost as if she were not authorized to modify the world for a fantasy narrative, or as if readers do not have the mental elasticity necessary to accept something too distant from reality (perhaps I am hypothesizing that this mental elasticity is precisely lacking to the author).
I have read several reviews that also raise problems with the linguistic modality with which the author deals with racism, but I refuse to delve into the matter as I am not prepared enough to express myself.
 
To conclude: It's not what I expected to read and I'm not satisfied, but it's not a bad book; the ending and some plot choices aren't my thing but I can easily overlook those.

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lipka's review

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emotional sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0

It is "a thematic response to The Secret History, and a tonal retort to Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell." 

I think my favorite was the fluttering. ᜋᜌ᜔ ᜉᜃ᜔ᜉᜃ᜔ ᜀᜅ᜔ ᜊᜎᜒᜆ. It ends only as it ever could. The audiobook narration is beautiful. The protagonist's voice ages and breaks. Please send birds.

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diamondbreezy's review against another edition

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challenging dark medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.5


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yzer2468's review against another edition

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dark informative mysterious reflective sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0


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potatogrr's review

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challenging dark emotional sad tense slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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rotten_flesh's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging dark emotional informative reflective sad slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.75


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emsavors's review against another edition

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dark emotional sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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lizzie_b99's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging dark emotional informative reflective sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

This book. Wow. Just wow. It's amazing. Make sure you check triggers as needed because this books has A LOT of triggers. I love the reimaging of the Industrial Revolution as powered by silver rather than coal and the focus on how academia is implicated in colonial systems. The ending was so good. I wished for more, but the elisions I think are intentional and are part of Kuang's point. I both have too many thoughts and no thoughts. Be prepared to stay up super late once you get to the latter parts, because you'll need to know how this book ends immediately. I'm going to have to get The Poppy War trilogy ASAP now to read more of Kuang's amazing work. 

Did anyone else see Ramy/Robin's relationship as queer-coded? I'm wondering if part of the reason Ramy doesn't see Letty in a romantic light is because he's queer? (Though to be clear, there are A LOT of reasons why Ramy might not want to be in a relationship with Letty. Like so many). In a lot of passages throughout the novel, but especially Ramy/Robin's instant connection and Robin's response after Ramy's death really made me see their relationship as being more than just a close friendship
 

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noahsingh's review against another edition

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medium-paced
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes

5.0

Easily a new favourite book, can't remember the last time I enjoyed a book this much.
 Ramy, Victorie and Robin are gonna stay with me for a While.

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